If Ward comes back and beats the man at CW does he crack top 25 ATG?

**BrometheusBob.** · 12-15-2017, 12:53 PM

No........

**MaksBox** · 12-15-2017, 12:55 PM

Ward going up from 175 to 200? He is going to get KTFO.

**Johnston** · 12-15-2017, 12:55 PM

Like I said he wouldn't stand a chance. Ward wasn't a big lhw, he goes up against a guy like usyk who has all the advantages. Wards tactics wouldn't work with a man that much bigger

**Robbie Barrett** · 12-15-2017, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by MaksBox

Ward going up from 175 to 200? He is going to get KTFO.

Originally posted by Johnston

Like I said he wouldn't stand a chance. Ward wasn't a big lhw, he goes up against a guy like usyk who has all the advantages. Wards tactics wouldn't work with a man that much bigger

But if he did, would he be top 25 ATG?

**Bjl12** · 12-15-2017, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

But if he did, would he be top 25 ATG?

I'd put him just above pacquiao at around 30.

**Johnston** · 12-15-2017, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

But if he did, would he be top 25 ATG?

If he did you would definitely have to consider it imo

**Mr Objecitivity** · 12-15-2017, 01:03 PM

He isn't beating Oleksandr Usyk. Not only is Oleksandr Usyk much bigger in size than Andre Ward, but is also significantly more skilled as far as I'm concerned, even without factoring in his size advantage.

I'm not sure if he cracks the top 25 because I don't have a specific list beyond top 5 / 10.

**sunny31** · 12-15-2017, 01:32 PM

Its a tough question to answer just off a whim like that and would take a lot of research and consideration. He would certainly elevate himself to another level.

We are talking about beating Usyk basically, so that along with everything else he has achieved creates a lot of evidence to put him somewhere up in the highest echelon's of the sport. Not sure about a specific number, but you would have to start thinking about him in Floyd and Pac territory as far as recent atg's. You are talking about a guy scaling 32lbs in competitive weight, so yeah pretty damn impressive.

**j.razor** · 12-15-2017, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity

He isn't beating Oleksandr Usyk. Not only is Oleksandr Usyk much bigger in size than Andre Ward, but is also significantly more skilled as far as I'm concerned, even without factoring in his size advantage.

I'm not sure if he cracks the top 25 because I don't have a specific list beyond top 5 / 10.

You don't believe that....Oleksandr Usyk suks. How is this guy going to beat Ward if he don't even have a jab?
Just cuz you don't like certain fighters don't mean you have to lie.

If Ward comes back and beats the man at CW does he crack top 25 ATG?