Loma is a p4p champ and #Biased/#NewMedia doesn't like it

[Tha_Greatest]

He’s not p4p1 for me. I don’t have a list but he has to be somewhere in the top 5. I don’t see him as a sharp enough puncher. He dominated Rigo but Rigo was never in any real danger. Him quitting was a shock to everyone even though he was dominating.

africanists, lol, rascist at heart i see

[Tom Cruise]

yeah but they have a couple better wins then let's say a monroe jar or a gabe rosado or matthew macklin

Top level opp imo

GGG:

Canelo - D
Jacobs - W (close)
Lemieux - W (KO)

Loma:

Walters - W (KO)
Salido - L
GRjnr - W (close on cards, wide to me)

Canelo:

GGG - D
Trout - W (close)
Cotto - W (close)
Mayweather - L (wide)
Lara - W (close)

Crawford:

Beltran - W (wide)
Postol - W (wide)
Indongo - i guess - W (KO)

All pretty much on a level. P4P is very weak right now compared to 10 years ago. Most of these guys are spending their primes fighting once in a blue moon against sub standard opposition.

[D4thincarnation]

I dont think thats how most people grade P4Panymore tbh. Way too difficult.

Whats the point in asking the question of how Anthony Joshua (250lbs) and Wanheng Menayothin (105lbs) would look if they were same size? Impossible question.

For me, its about resume, with a healthy dose of 'what have you done for me lately'.

You just imagine how a fight would go down if they are at the same weight. You know their technical skills power, speed.

It not an exact science and really shouldn't taken too serriously

[EL_GRINGO]

Top level opp imo

All pretty much on a level. P4P is very weak right now compared to 10 years ago. Most of these guys are spending their primes fighting once in a blue moon against sub standard opposition.

Well all of these guys have have 20-30+ fights, the difference is that Loma has just 11,Martinez maybe isn't his biggest name but he's a decent opponent,Rigo was small but a master boxer,i would say give him some time, if he gets Berchelt that would be another solid name,and one thing you could say about loma is that he's been the most dominant over his opposition, and for Golovkin,i think he's starting to feel the effects of father time,Crawford right up there with Loma.
Canelo very good resume but cotton was also old for instance, think charlie puts him to sleep or at least wins a decision

[Tom Cruise]

Well all of these guys have have 20-30+ fights, the difference is that Loma has just 11,Martinez maybe isn't his biggest name but he's a decent opponent,Rigo was small but a master boxer,i would say give him some time, if he gets Berchelt that would be another solid name,and one thing you could say about loma is that he's been the most dominant over his opposition, and for Golovkin,i think he's starting to feel the effects of father time,Crawford right up there with Loma.
Canelo very good resume but cotton was also old for instance, think charlie puts him to sleep or at least wins a decision

True but Loma is 30 and in his prime, amount of fights doesnt really concern me too much.

I think Crawford has been more dominant. Loma wasnt that dominant against GRjnr for example, or Salido obviously.

Im not saying Loma doesnt have the talent, not even arguing if other people have him no.1, but for me, he hasnt proved it in the ring yet. I fully expect him too if he can get the opponents. I think he beats Berchelt, Davis and the others at 130 (though I want to see it, especially Berchelt), I also think he beats Garcia at 135 (close but Garcia is a timing fighter, and Loma is so difficult to time). Like I say I just need to see these fights happen rather than thinking I know what would happen.

[Outwest Exp 355]

africanists, lol, rascist at heart i see

So since I don’t think Loma is P4p1 that makes me a racist? That’s some ****** ass shyt right there. I said the man was great I just think there’s something missing in his game.

[Robbie Barrett]

Well all of these guys have have 20-30+ fights, the difference is that Loma has just 11,Martinez maybe isn't his biggest name but he's a decent opponent,Rigo was small but a master boxer,i would say give him some time, if he gets Berchelt that would be another solid name,and one thing you could say about loma is that he's been the most dominant over his opposition, and for Golovkin,i think he's starting to feel the effects of father time,Crawford right up there with Loma.
Canelo very good resume but cotton was also old for instance, think charlie puts him to sleep or at least wins a decision

Lomachenko fans selecting when and when not his amateur record counts. Lomachenko doesn't lack boxing experience he probably has more than anyone on the list.

[BillyBoxing]

my comment isnt ******

loma was how old when he took on salido?

loma obviously felt he was prepared enough to make that jump when he did...its on him and his people...if he wasnt fully prepared than it was ******

loma was comfortable making that jump when he did....loma may have been fighting ams but he was training and sparring plenty of guys....he wasnt training for 4 round fights during his entire amatuer career

im not one to simply say "omg well fighting in the ams is different than the pros" as some excuse or crutch.....its obvious there is a difference

but if you think loma was age 24 and training like he was fighting for 4 round fights you are crazy......loma made the jump quickly because he felt he was prepared for it

loma and mikey fought salido at the same AGE!!! difference is one chose to take resume building fillers and the other chose olympic route.......if you think loma went from training for 4 rounders and blindly made the jump to the pros you are nuts....his training regimen wasnt that of your typical 18 year old fighting 4 rounders before he turned pro...

So Loma was a seasoned pro when he fought Salido?

[GOLDKING]

lomachenko better than every inbred, D level brit and affirmative action, PED using american fighters at the moment hahahaha...let the jealousy flow through you.

[Curt Henning]

So Loma was a seasoned pro when he fought Salido?

im not saying he was a seasoned pro...but hes seasoned

some guys want to act like he was still training for x4 2 minute rounds against 18 year olds or something....and then on top of that you want to make it sound like he was thrown to the wolves blindly and forced to take on good level comp right off the bat from turning pro

none of that happened....loma already likely had a training regimen that rivaled pros his age....and he didnt have to take on the level of comp he did.....but he was comfortable with it because he felt he was prepared enough...if he wasnt i doubt he would have blindly jumped in there like that