Comments Thread For: Hearn on DeGale: When You Are Free Agent, Nobody Gives a F***!

[Randall Cunning]

the fight was set up for a robbery?? you were shocked?
I watched the fight, DeGale a world champion?
He looked like an AMATEUR, flat footed, no jab, no defence,
pathetic!

Yes, I had Truax winning, and was shocked when the judges got it right

[TheBigLug]

Oh fùck off Hearn. Degale lived the nomadic life of a free agent because cùnts like you take the financial cream off the top aswell as the limelight so he went and found himself Haymon as an advisor who kept him paid well. Warren on the other hand took a gamble with all these marquee signings and it's not really going that great. So much for a respectable promotion rival. It might get worse soon with Saunders vs Lemieux.

Haha and you think Haymon is advising these boxers for free?

Fighters are getting money skimmed off the top from all angles. Haymon is doing the same, of course, he's a business man too.

The fact is guys went with the Haymon approach because he found a way through investors to overpay fighters to lure them in, that's all. Now that gravy train is stopping, the bigger PBC events are getting less frequent and fighters aren't getting $1m to fight bums now.

There's no career guidance with Haymon and fighting on these PBC cards, they're just events to make money. It's one thing being a free agent and working with Haymon when you have as much clout as Mayweather and don't need a promoter. Guys like DeGale need career guidance for longevity, building a career and making real money. DeGale hasn't made big money really.

This is no knock on PBC or Haymon. It was cool, more boxing and some good fights got made but the business model was never going to favour fighters in the long run unless they're already very well established.

[jas]

Translation:

All fighters should let me hustle them and give me a bigger cut than i deserve

I would have paid off the judges

[Drunken Cat]

Hearn is obviously biased, and as PR experts promoters tend to have a way of saying just those things which put themselves in a positive light.

That said, as a man in the business he does have insights worth listening to. But when someone has obvious conflicts of interest in the way a thing is perceived, you have to take it with a grain of salt.

Than again, Degale is a pretty high profile athlete in the UK, so I suppose a lot of people are getting words in on it.

[Sir_Didymus]

Haha and you think Haymon is advising these boxers for free?

Fighters are getting money skimmed off the top from all angles. Haymon is doing the same, of course, he's a business man too.

The fact is guys went with the Haymon approach because he found a way through investors to overpay fighters to lure them in, that's all. Now that gravy train is stopping, the bigger PBC events are getting less frequent and fighters aren't getting $1m to fight bums now.

There's no career guidance with Haymon and fighting on these PBC cards, they're just events to make money. It's one thing being a free agent and working with Haymon when you have as much clout as Mayweather and don't need a promoter. Guys like DeGale need career guidance for longevity, building a career and making real money. DeGale hasn't made big money really.

This is no knock on PBC or Haymon. It was cool, more boxing and some good fights got made but the business model was never going to favour fighters in the long run unless they're already very well established.

Nobody works for free, dummy.

Not everyone robs a man of his hard earned money either.

It's not Rocket science is it? There's a reason everyone speaks highly of Haymon. He pays them well. End of.

[TheBigLug]

Nobody works for free, dummy.

Not everyone robs a man of his hard earned money either.

It's not Rocket science is it? There's a reason everyone speaks highly of Haymon. He pays them well. End of.

For their 1 fight a year and easy work. Yeah, he used to.

It's becoming less frequent, that is apparent and that was my point. He paid them well to lure them away from promoters initially but in the long run they end up losing out on regular good paydays and being built properly for longevity and consistent money fights.

Fighters have since been figuring out that the grass isn't always greener and the money isn't coming in so easily anymore. That's why Jacobs jumped at the chance to work with Hearn and many other fighters trying to get on board with him. Like him or not, he builds a career for you, not just sticks you on one card a year.

[Afi23]

For their 1 fight a year and easy work. Yeah, he used to.

It's becoming less frequent, that is apparent and that was my point. He paid them well to lure them away from promoters initially but in the long run they end up losing out on regular good paydays and being built properly for longevity and consistent money fights.

Fighters have since been figuring out that the grass isn't always greener and the money isn't coming in so easily anymore. That's why Jacobs jumped at the chance to work with Hearn and many other fighters trying to get on board with him. Like him or not, he builds a career for you, not just sticks you on one card a year.

I get what you are saying and agrees with it to some extent but Haymon was involved in the Hearn-Jacobs deal and still advises Jacobs.

[deanrw]

It does not matter what Hearn says. Degale has been on a slide for a couple years now and getting beat up in fights. He either no longer has desire or has simply fallen out of his prime at a young age. It happens.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Nah I'm saying if hed have signed with Warren, or Hearn or whoever, theyd have an invested interest in him winning, enough to sway the judges opinion. Warren couldn't give a **** if he lost, or if he was on Hearns card, if there was no guarantee that he would fight for him again.

Good point there

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Fighters have since been figuring out that the grass isn't always greener and the money isn't coming in so easily anymore. That's why Jacobs jumped at the chance to work with Hearn and many other fighters trying to get on board with him. Like him or not, he builds a career for you, not just sticks you on one card a year.

What fighters? What fighters have figured that out? Only example you have is Danny Jacobs. He jumped at the chance lol? No one gave a damn about Hearn until AJ became popular. He’s getting tv dates off AJ name. First fight with Hearn was a boring mismatch that went the decision and did horrible numbers. The press conferences were in restaurants lol.



and many other fighters trying to get on board with him.


At this point you’re just regurgitating everything Hearn has said. It’s been 3 months and no other fighter has signed with him lol. Who are these other fighters?