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  • Eddy Current
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    #31
    Originally posted by Verbalk
    Yeah, for sure! I couldn't believe it when that internet troll was messing with Wilder. Who on earth wants a piece of a 2 meter heavyweight )

    Also is that you with Wlad ? Look at the size of his fist lol.

    That's Mike Ness from the band Social Distortion with Wlad lol. I guess he's pretty good buddies with Wlad and Vitali!

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    • sportbuddha
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      #32
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      He does that for range by stepping forward followed by the punch , Hitting someone right about the same time the foot hits the floor adds power . Ortiz seems to use it more to set up up the straight left . Timing him is easier than it looks ,southpaw angles are deceptive and can land sooner with shorter distance and better timed punches .

      Price level? Well Price isnt near top 10 and if that were the case you are assuming guys like Whyte and Parker are also favored over Ortiz which i cant see right now .
      Thanks for the coaching tips, I pointed out this bad habits because that’s what they are. No boxer at this level should be stamping that front foot so dramatically, it’s what I teach 10 yr olds. And his off balance back foot is a joke, wait until Wilder comes onto him, he’s going to trip over his own feet backing up. Luis is massively overrated, he’s beaten nobody, qualifies for a bus pass and as I’ve pointed out has some very bad habits, I could draw on my 20 years coaching experience to point out his other glaringly obvious issues but it’d be a waste on this guy. He’s not even relevant at the top level, hence why I lump him in with someone like Price.

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      • Eddy Current
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        #33
        Originally posted by vitali1999
        Sure I would. I'd run through him like a piece of paper. Just like Ortiz and Joshua would

        Lol, if you're going to troll about beating up Wilder, you probably shouldn't have a picture of yourself in your avatar.

        To your credit, you could probably beat Wilder in a cheeseburger eating contest.

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        • juggernaut666
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          #34
          Originally posted by sportbuddha
          Thanks for the coaching tips, I pointed out this bad habits because that’s what they are. No boxer at this level should be stamping that front foot so dramatically, it’s what I teach 10 yr olds. And his off balance back foot is a joke, wait until Wilder comes onto him, he’s going to trip over his own feet backing up. Luis is massively overrated, he’s beaten nobody, qualifies for a bus pass and as I’ve pointed out has some very bad habits, I could draw on my 20 years coaching experience to point out his other glaringly obvious issues but it’d be a waste on this guy. He’s not even relevant at the top level, hence why I lump him in with someone like Price.
          Like i said its a distance technique not just power . Its very effect at also making the opponent back pedal . . Sonny Liston also used the same technique with less forward motion . Ortiz's 84 inch reach also makes it that much more effective at the southpaw stance .

          You can draw on anything you like , this technique is used in martial arts for centuries and even Jack Dempseys book at mastering punching also explais the purpose of it . But you have 20 years of experience so you must be right . Its not even a KIDS technique its an advanced technique bc it requires timing ..... lol


          You would have also pointed out Wilder has the worst balance out of all the top HW's .


          If Wilder wins it will be bc he played the back foot long range game at gets a UD win . Hes not getting a quick K.O here he doesnt have the balance strength to do that with a mover and jabber like Ortiz .
          Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-11-2017, 08:18 AM.

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            #35
            Says 2 time drug cheat. The fact that he's allowed to fight again at all is a HUGE black eye on boxing and the WBC.

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            • thack
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              #36
              If anyone's the coward it must be Ortiz because he's the one trying to get an unfair advantage here with his cheating with drugs .It seems the coward can't deal with a level playing field.

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              • HanzGruber
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                #37
                lol Ortiz is a pretty dumb guy I must say

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                • sportbuddha
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Like i said its a distance technique not just power . Its very effect at also making the opponent back pedal . . Sonny Liston also used the same technique with less forward motion . Ortiz's 84 inch reach also makes it that much more effective at the southpaw stance .

                  You can draw on anything you like , this technique is used in martial arts for centuries and even Jack Dempseys book at mastering punching also explais the purpose of it . But you have 20 years of experience so you must be right . Its not even a KIDS technique its an advanced technique bc it requires timing ..... lol

                  If Wilder wins it will be bc he played the back foot long range game at gets a UD win . Hes not getting a quick K.O here he doesnt have the balance strength to do that with a mover and jabber like Ortiz .
                  Anyone watching that foot leave the ground would counter him before his slow motion jab is even close.

                  Sonny Liston was orthodox btw and he did not raise his front foot 6inches off the ground every time he threw a jab, comparing Luis is nonsense their styles are nothing alike.

                  As for Wilder, more nonsense, you’re right about one thing, he gets off balance, but he does it because he gets too excited, loses his discipline and gets over his front foot too much....so why on earth in your analysis does he suddenly become a back foot range fighter against Luis...?

                  I don’t care about your attempts to discredit my experience, it doesn’t even take much observation to see Luis is old, slow and flawed.

                  Funny you should mention the front foot stamping thing, because it is something I remember being taught in karate, which we all know is useless in combat sports aside from...karate

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                  • Madison Boxing
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                    #39
                    ortiz may be coming up for 50 with considerable chronic health problems but hes still one of the top guys in the division. id like to see the fight happen.

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                    • juggernaut666
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sportbuddha
                      Anyone watching that foot leave the ground would counter him before his slow motion jab is even close.

                      Sonny Liston was orthodox btw and he did not raise his front foot 6inches off the ground every time he threw a jab, comparing Luis is nonsense their styles are nothing alike.

                      As for Wilder, more nonsense, you’re right about one thing, he gets off balance, but he does it because he gets too excited, loses his discipline and gets over his front foot too much....so why on earth in your analysis does he suddenly become a back foot range fighter against Luis...?

                      I don’t care about your attempts to discredit my experience, it doesn’t even take much observation to see Luis is old, slow and flawed.

                      Funny you should mention the front foot stamping thing, because it is something I remember being taught in karate, which we all know is useless in combat sports aside from...karate
                      I didnt say Liston was unorthodox which is why i brought up the Ortiz south paw angle being more effective .

                      The first sentence is subjective as it has no correlation with the actual technique of hitting and striking going in motion from feet touching the floor to striking simultaneously which is what Ortiz is doing as well as gaining distance before the initial strike is thrown .

                      Your also talking to a more experience person than you are ....those who havent mastered the step and and hit technique have never done it otherwise yoiu wouldn't have said it doesnt work ......

                      it clearly does bc you are transfering energy to the target when done properly . All this has little to do with Martial arts bc the punch itself in boxing works even for a jab...... Go look at who the best jabbers ever were ...Louis .Liston, Holmes , Klitchko etc .


                      Wilder is a back foot fighter and trained to be moreso ,have you ever even see FULL fights of his ? Bc if you dont know that then what is the point of you even telling me whats what ? I dont have to discredit you ,anyone who knows Wilder knows he likes moving back at angles yet you are questioning me why Wilder will become a back foot fighter against Ortiz ? lol

                      Sorry but that makes no sense as does you bringing up Ortiz age and flaws which still make Wilder look like an amateur which has ZERO to do with Ortiz techniques .
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-11-2017, 05:53 PM.

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