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  • #91
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    But we already know the industry standard for someone in his position is to file a lower number to save on taxes and sanctioning fees.

    Unless you really believe Cotto only made $750,000?
    Back up your claims. No good leaving it out of your replies.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
      Back up your claims. No good leaving it out of your replies.
      Why won't you answer the question? Did Cotto only make $750,000 or not?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        Why won't you answer the question? Did Cotto only make $750,000 or not?
        Deflecting.

        You made two claims.

        1. I was lying about Wilder making a maximum 1.5 mil for a purse.
        2. Wilder's purse is more than his official revealed purses.

        You've provided nothing to support these claims.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
          Deflecting.
          Asking you to stop ignoring a question that sinks your entire argument is not deflecting. But every post that you refuse to answer is an admission that even though you don't have the honor or courage to admit you, you realize we're right that the number on a commission contract is often much lower than the fighter's true payday.


          You made two claims.

          1. I was lying about Wilder making a maximum 1.5 mil for a purse.
          You wrote: "Wilder makes at most 1.5 mil" even though you have absolutely no way of knowing if that's true.


          2. Wilder's purse is more than his official revealed purses.

          You've provided nothing to support these claims.
          This is common knowledge in the industry. Standard practice. If you weren't aware of that, then please just tell us if you really believe that Cotto only got $750,000. Thanks.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
            Asking you to stop ignoring a question that sinks your entire argument is not deflecting. But every post that you refuse to answer is an admission that even though you don't have the honor or courage to admit you, you realize we're right that the number on a commission contract is often much lower than the fighter's true payday.




            You wrote: "Wilder makes at most 1.5 mil" even though you have absolutely no way of knowing if that's true.




            This is common knowledge in the industry. Standard practice. If you weren't aware of that, then please just tell us if you really believe that Cotto only got $750,000. Thanks.
            So you have nothing to back up your claims. Just say that instead of beating around the bush. FFS.

            Other fighters are of no interest. We are talking about Wilder. You either have evidence to back up your claims or you don't. You clearly don't. So i guess that makes you the liar, not i.
            Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 12-09-2017, 02:04 AM.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              So you have nothing to back up your claims. Just say that instead of beating around the bush. FFS.

              Other fighters are of no interest. We are talking about Wilder. You either have evidence to back up your claims or you don't. You clearly don't. So i guess that makes you the liar, not i.
              Our claim is that it's common to file a reduced purse to save on taxes and fees. If your claim is that yes it's common, but for some reason Wilder is the only main event A-side not doing it, the onus is on you to back up your declaration that "Wilder makes at most 1.5 mil."

              Meanwhile, you absolutely refused to answer whether Cotto got more than $750,000.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                Our claim is that it's common to file a reduced purse to save on taxes and fees. If your claim is that yes it's common, but for some reason Wilder is the only main event A-side not doing it, the onus is on you to back up your declaration that "Wilder makes at most 1.5 mil."

                Meanwhile, you absolutely refused to answer whether Cotto got more than $750,000.
                Who's "our" you do that a lot when on the backfoot, you don't want to accept responsibility for your own bullshit.

                I claimed Wilder hasn't earned more than 1.5 mil for a fight, backed up by official numbers.

                You claimed he earns more, but haven't provided anything.

                Poor guy. Accusing others of lying when he's the one doing it.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  Who's "our"
                  As has been explained many times, this account is operated by three previous boxingscene members. One of us has ties to the WBC, one of us has ties to the WBA and one of us has ties to the IBF. Since so many of our posts revolved around sanctioning body politics, we decided to just operate a joint account to offer insights into how things really work in the industry.


                  I claimed Wilder hasn't earned more than 1.5 mil for a fight, backed up by official numbers.
                  And we pointed out that official numbers are often inaccurate. Which clearly you agree with since you absolutely refuse to answer whether Cotto made $750,000.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    As has been explained many times, this account is operated by three previous boxingscene members. One of us has ties to the WBC, one of us has ties to the WBA and one of us has ties to the IBF. Since so many of our posts revolved around sanctioning body politics, we decided to just operate a joint account to offer insights into how things really work in the industry.




                    And we pointed out that official numbers are often inaccurate. Which clearly you agree with since you absolutely refuse to answer whether Cotto made $750,000.
                    You're full of ****. Nobody believes that lame bullshit that there's 3 people that worked at the 3 orgs on one account.

                    Even if it was true that they are often inaccurate, you have no evidence Wilders are. You lied.

                    How hard is that to understand.

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                    • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                      You're full of ****. Nobody believes that lame bullshit that there's 3 people that worked at the 3 orgs on one account.
                      Please show us where we said we worked for them? You naturally develop relationships with the organizations when they're sanctioning your events and helping elevate your fighters. This is part of why you're wrong so often. You struggle with basic reading comprehension. You make similar mistakes constantly.


                      Even if it was true that they are often inaccurate, you have no evidence Wilders are. You lied.
                      And you have no evidence that they're accurate. You're the one that declared what he makes AT MOST. You have nothing credible to support your position because we know industry standard is that the number on the contract filed with the commission is inaccurate.

                      Which is why you absolutely refuse to answer whether Cotto was paid $750,000.

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