Comments Thread For: Crolla Doubts Khan Ever Fights Brook - But Sees Other Options

[Sir_Didymus]

Outside the casual / bigoted boxing fans here in the UK, I'd like to think Americans respect Khan's career given their understanding of the sport. Here's a man that won the Olympic Silver medal aged 17, became world champion at 22 and then would go onto beat the best ranked fighters in Ring Magazine's ratings at 140lb before falling short at winning the lineal title when he was defeated by Garcia. However, Khan is rarely in a dull fight and has fought roughly 10-15 world champions, that was roughly the number of world champions from Britain more recently; the point is, he has never shy'd from testing himself against the best and has always displayed a lot of character to bounce back from devastating KO defeats and he always shows a lot of heart when he fights, I've never seen him quit and he always gets back up.

His resume includes wins over Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Marcos Maidana, Zab Judah, (controversial loss to Lamont Peterson he should have got the decision there), Diaz, Collazo, Alexander and Algieri. It just goes to show he had the desire to establish his world championship status. Am sure most would have had him as the favourite to beat Garcia, he had a terrible camp in the lead up to that fight, Alex Ariza who was instrumental in his career had been fired, there was in-fighting amongst his team and Roach was barely there; in fact there is footage prior to that fight of him getting involved in reckless sparring session just days before his fight. Then during the fight itself he performed like a moron, overly aggressive not helped by the best camp and had also allowed angel garcia to get in his head. Having said that I felt the stoppage was a little premature but Garcia deserved to win, but lets be honest; Amir should have won that fight but we need to put things into perspective with regards to what contributed to his defeat.

Further, his second high profile loss to Canelo (don't really bring up the Prescott one because he bounced back from that fight and proved himself to be a world class fighter) was simply because he was outweighted heavily by a guy who was physically stronger; despite that Khan was causing him problems for as long as he lasted but its silly ridiculing him for that defeat.

On the other hand, Kell Brook has fought bum after bum, was lucky to get a decision in America against Porter, then he desperately tried to avoid facing his mandatory's by facing the likes of Gavin and No No Dan as a World Champion! before being forced into a corner by Spence, so in his first real test as World Champ, what does he do? he quits in front of his home fans. I find it shocking that Amir is mentioned in the same sentence as Kell, he has had a superior career and was respectable champion; also why would people be so interested in a fight when there is such a big gulf in class? Amir is a World Class fighter who proved that, Kell is something between the domestic and world level. Furthermore, Kell has always fought at the welterweight limit while Khan made his debut as a lightweight; it just goes to show how the match up just doesn't make a lot of sense and even more so given that Kell has moved up to 154lb.

The way I read into things, Khan forged a respectable career and made his money's, by no means perfect and should have achieved more but you got to respect him, it takes incredible mental and physical strength to get to the Olympic stage let alone win a medal at 17 by beating up grown men, then winning the world title, getting some great away wins and proving yourself to be a worthy holder of a belt, it takes a lot to win a domestic championship let alone a world championship, many these days have life/death getting to that status and often their reign is short lived but Khan defended his belts against reputable opponents. And now, his career has come towards its tail end; things have not been perfect in his life, he had made some poor decisions but he hopes to fight in 2018 in an attempt to end things on a high, Kell on the other hand is just looking to cash out in career that has been mostly underwhelming, this is why he keeps mentioning Khan who is past his prime and a lot smaller then him, he knows he has a good chance to beat him and make a lot of money, he has no interest in facing the elite at 147 and his promoter has already called out a 154 champion who is in fact a welterweight in the form of Sadam Ali, no disrespect to him but just emphasising the mindset of matchroom and especially Kell Brook; beyond me how overly he is rated in the UK.

Most of what you said is obvious to any real boxing fan but the way Hearn has been handling his fighters isn't so obvious. Well it's getting talked about more now anyway how he steers his fighters away from the real tests and sells trash instead which the British public lap up.

Yafai steered away from Inoue.

Burnett steered away from Tete.

Joshua steered away from Parker/Wilder.

Brook steered away from everyone unless it's a payday.

Whyte steered away from everyone decent so he can be a buffer for Joshua or a 2nd all British payday for both.

Josh Kelly will also be managed this way which is a shame as talented as he is he should be thrown in with the Lions early.

It's not a surprise the best cards in the UK this year all were BoxNation cards with BJS vs Lemieux and Rigo vs Lomachenko still to come as well.

It is also pretty apt they are dubbed as Mismatchroom all over the UK.

[FrankieBruno]

Brook will target Saddam Ali, a fight which he can win

But soon as Brook faces anyone with a pulse at 154, he will be sent into retirement

Brook is now looking for the easiest fights

[Sir_Didymus]

Brook will target Saddam Ali, a fight which he can win

But soon as Brook faces anyone with a pulse at 154, he will be sent into retirement

Brook is now looking for the easiest fights

At this point even former sparring partner Liam Smith will fùck him up easy. Not even joking. Smith has done well in sparring a prime Brook pre broken orbital and quitting. He's also gone back to boxing technically as we saw in his rematch with Liam Williams. Just boxed all night whilst Williams was the aggressor all night. They obviously shìt themselves. Even Williams would seriously put a hurting on Brook with his constant pressure.

I wouldn't completely discount Ali either. There's obviously a reason fights like Rios vs Brook, Alexander vs Brook, Chaves vs Brook, Bradley vs Brook, Vargas vs Brook weren't made. More importantly he was given three months to make weight for Cotto and turned it down. Whilst Ali took it and got his just desserts.

Kell Shook.

[thack]

Khan is done .Garcia would batter him to bits again .Thurman and Spence would just kill him.There's nowhere to hide after the jungle for Amir the first decent welter he faces (if ever) will decapitate him .Khan has taken too many hammerings which is clear to see.Retire Amir and save yourself even more embarrassment.

[Straightener]

Really no need for that racism pal.

Nothing to do with racism dafty

That's a lot of literature for someone who works . First guess was a taxi driver

Keep reaching

[The Truth!]

Quite day at the taxi rank ?

haha seems likes there's quite a few taxi drivers or Corner shop workers in this thread.. I can't actually believe what I read from that nerd who wrote the big reply.. the desperation and delusion of Khan fans is hilarious, they have such low standards, he's the most ridiculed bum in the sport he's closer to Audley Harrison level than he is Lomachenko level.

[The Truth!]

Outside the casual / bigoted boxing fans here in the UK, I'd like to think Americans respect Khan's career given their understanding of the sport. Here's a man that won the Olympic Silver medal aged 17, became world champion at 22 and then would go onto beat the best ranked fighters in Ring Magazine's ratings at 140lb before falling short at winning the lineal title when he was defeated by Garcia. However, Khan is rarely in a dull fight and has fought roughly 10-15 world champions, that was roughly the number of world champions from Britain more recently; the point is, he has never shy'd from testing himself against the best and has always displayed a lot of character to bounce back from devastating KO defeats and he always shows a lot of heart when he fights, I've never seen him quit and he always gets back up.

His resume includes wins over Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Marcos Maidana, Zab Judah, (controversial loss to Lamont Peterson he should have got the decision there), Diaz, Collazo, Alexander and Algieri. It just goes to show he had the desire to establish his world championship status. Am sure most would have had him as the favourite to beat Garcia, he had a terrible camp in the lead up to that fight, Alex Ariza who was instrumental in his career had been fired, there was in-fighting amongst his team and Roach was barely there; in fact there is footage prior to that fight of him getting involved in reckless sparring session just days before his fight. Then during the fight itself he performed like a moron, overly aggressive not helped by the best camp and had also allowed angel garcia to get in his head. Having said that I felt the stoppage was a little premature but Garcia deserved to win, but lets be honest; Amir should have won that fight but we need to put things into perspective with regards to what contributed to his defeat.

Further, his second high profile loss to Canelo (don't really bring up the Prescott one because he bounced back from that fight and proved himself to be a world class fighter) was simply because he was outweighted heavily by a guy who was physically stronger; despite that Khan was causing him problems for as long as he lasted but its silly ridiculing him for that defeat.

On the other hand, Kell Brook has fought bum after bum, was lucky to get a decision in America against Porter, then he desperately tried to avoid facing his mandatory's by facing the likes of Gavin and No No Dan as a World Champion! before being forced into a corner by Spence, so in his first real test as World Champ, what does he do? he quits in front of his home fans. I find it shocking that Amir is mentioned in the same sentence as Kell, he has had a superior career and was respectable champion; also why would people be so interested in a fight when there is such a big gulf in class? Amir is a World Class fighter who proved that, Kell is something between the domestic and world level. Furthermore, Kell has always fought at the welterweight limit while Khan made his debut as a lightweight; it just goes to show how the match up just doesn't make a lot of sense and even more so given that Kell has moved up to 154lb.

The way I read into things, Khan forged a respectable career and made his money's, by no means perfect and should have achieved more but you got to respect him, it takes incredible mental and physical strength to get to the Olympic stage let alone win a medal at 17 by beating up grown men, then winning the world title, getting some great away wins and proving yourself to be a worthy holder of a belt, it takes a lot to win a domestic championship let alone a world championship, many these days have life/death getting to that status and often their reign is short lived but Khan defended his belts against reputable opponents. And now, his career has come towards its tail end; things have not been perfect in his life, he had made some poor decisions but he hopes to fight in 2018 in an attempt to end things on a high, Kell on the other hand is just looking to cash out in career that has been mostly underwhelming, this is why he keeps mentioning Khan who is past his prime and a lot smaller then him, he knows he has a good chance to beat him and make a lot of money, he has no interest in facing the elite at 147 and his promoter has already called out a 154 champion who is in fact a welterweight in the form of Sadam Ali, no disrespect to him but just emphasising the mindset of matchroom and especially Kell Brook; beyond me how overly he is rated in the UK.

I can't actually believe what I just read. Are you getting Khan mixed up with someone else haha. I thought to myself surely you are trolling at first, but no you are serious! I've always said Khan's South Asian fans are the most deluded ,desperate boxing fans I've ever come across and you just prove it once again.

You are talking like Khan is some Lomachenko or something hahaha! wtf! Get real!! seriously if Khan was white or black he'd be seen as a bum. You people have extremely low standards

You always predictably mention ''Khan won Olympic SILVER at 17'''. Mate it was a SILVER medal! Not Gold. he didn't come first! Paddy Barnes of Ireland threw his Olympic Bronze medal on the floor and said 'Bronze medal is for losers'', it's called having high standards, you people are desperate with extremely low standards. Lomachenko was in tears when he won Silver at the world championships when he was 19 because he wanted to be a winner. He then won Gold at the Olympics and the Val Barker at 20, and Gold at the World championships at 21. Robeisy Ramirez won Gold at the Olympics at 19. They are what you call great amateurs, Khan can't even be put in the same sentence as them. You don't realise how ****** you sound when you keep ****ing on about a ****ing SILVER medal , no one gives a **** about silver medalists. Fred Evans won a silver medal for GB at 2012 at the young age of 21, yet he's unknown and forgotten about.

You claim he ' fell short of claiming the lineal title'' versus Garcia, this is bull**** because Garcia was largely UNKNOWN at this time and nobody rated him at this time everyone thought he was average, he'd got a gift against Theophane lol. Khan was a HUGE favourite to beat Garcia.. he was cherry picking him thinking it would be an easy fight. Garcia has the timing, and chin, and and decent all round skills to beat Khan everytime, that was no fluke.

''Khan beat the best ranked fighters in Ring Magazine's ratings at 140'' Bull**** he beat a load of bums and average fighters or past it names, and almost all of them had feather fists. He got a undeserved manufactured title shot against a very weak champion in the most weakest division at which around that time had non stop terrible champions like Gavin Rees, Junior Witter, Souleymayne M'baye, Lamont Peterson, etc even fat past it retired Erik Morales managed to win a belt there lol

Khan cherry picked feather fisted boxers and past it names his entire career. He's been the favourite in every fight he's had apart from Alvarez. If he writes an autobiography it should be called '' cherry picking gone wrong'' haha.

His resume is pretty crap to anyone who doesn't have low standards or isn't biased case they look similar to him

Kotelnik - very weak world champion, feather fisted, slow, average in almost every department. Lost to M'baye and Witter lol!

Malignaggi - Average and very very featherfisted - he was the perfect Khan opponent Khan was always gonna face him, I remember him getting gifts against guys like Ngoudjo and N'dou

Lamont Peterson - beat Khan fair and square! Another average and feather fisted fighter, and he whooped Khan. A troll on here could easily call Peterson a 'bum'.

Julio Diaz - totally past his best, he was ranked about 40th when Khan faced him lol, and it was a really close fight that could've gone either way, I had Diaz winning by 1 point and Diaz even dropped Khan lol.

Luis Collazo - another totally past it 'USA name'. He was some retired average alcoholic brought back lol.Man you are desperate.

Chris Algieri - how many times did Pacman drop this bum lol can't even believe you mentioned him, feather fisted bum/average at best.

Zab Judah - was completely past his best! Hence why he did nothing after the Khan fight! Completely shot.. got a gift against Matthysse.

Maidana - the only decent win Khan has. And he only faced him cause he was a mandatory. He was running all night and was badly hurt, the ref could've easily stopped it.This was a green Maidana, before he was trained by Robert Garcia.. He improved massively by the time he faced Broner and Mayweather. The Khan Maidana faced was the guy who lost every single round to Devon Alexander! and struggled to a majority decision with a fat retired Morales!!! haha.

Your excuses for the Garcia loss was embarassingly cringeworthy and desperate lol!

Khan has just one decent win, the same as Brook. Apart from the Alvarez payday, Khan has been cherry picking bums and past it names and feather fisted guys purposely, you think Khan is gonna face the best at 147 - Spence, Crawford, Thurman - haha there's no chance Khan is going to face them. He's made the longest list of excuses of any boxer ever in history in not facing Kell brook, biggest duck I've seen, he is terrified of losing to him.

Khan is not a 'world class' fighter in my book lol. He couldn't last long at world level. he had a short manufactured forgettable little reign, he never faced the best fighters at all 3 weight divisions he's been at. He has a long list of flaws, no Ring IQ, lacks power, and the obvious one - the worst chin I've ever seen of any top 20 ranked fighter in a division. he clearly could not compete with the top guys.

look at the amount of people who've dropped him
Breidis Prescott -Ko'd in 50 seconds lol against some colombian taxi driver bum lol
Willie Limond - 15 second count - should have been a KO loss against a feather fisted, domestic level fighter.
Danny Garcia - Ko'd in 4 rounds was it lol
Saul Alvarez - looked like he was dead on the canvas lol
Craig Watson - got dropped heavily by Watson who couldn't crack an egg
Michael Gomez - a retired featherweight heavy knockdown
Rachid Drilzane - a guy with a 0% KO ratio dropped him
Julio Diaz

Only thing I agree with you is that he's been good to watch. Usually cause he gets dropped and struggles in every other fight against someone hes's big favourite to beat lol.

Khan isn't even in the top 10 best UK fighters of the last 15 years lol UK has loads of world champions at all times. he should be fighting at domestic/european level, but he's not because he's a big celebrity name because of race/religion..not because of ability/achievements. he's the biggest joke in boxing, and his deluded fans make him an even bigger joke. Your standards are extremely low.

[Shaz619]

I can't actually believe what I just read. Are you getting Khan mixed up with someone else haha. I thought to myself surely you are trolling at first, but no you are serious! I've always said Khan's South Asian fans are the most deluded ,desperate boxing fans I've ever come across and you just prove it once again.

You are talking like Khan is some Lomachenko or something hahaha! wtf! Get real!! seriously if Khan was white or black he'd be seen as a bum. You people have extremely low standards

You always predictably mention ''Khan won Olympic SILVER at 17'''. Mate it was a SILVER medal! Not Gold. he didn't come first! Paddy Barnes of Ireland threw his Olympic Bronze medal on the floor and said 'Bronze medal is for losers'', it's called having high standards, you people are desperate with extremely low standards. Lomachenko was in tears when he won Silver at the world championships when he was 19 because he wanted to be a winner. He then won Gold at the Olympics and the Val Barker at 20, and Gold at the World championships at 21. Robeisy Ramirez won Gold at the Olympics at 19. They are what you call great amateurs, Khan can't even be put in the same sentence as them. You don't realise how ****** you sound when you keep ****ing on about a ****ing SILVER medal , no one gives a **** about silver medalists. Fred Evans won a silver medal for GB at 2012 at the young age of 21, yet he's unknown and forgotten about.

You claim he ' fell short of claiming the lineal title'' versus Garcia, this is bull**** because Garcia was largely UNKNOWN at this time and nobody rated him at this time everyone thought he was average, he'd got a gift against Theophane lol. Khan was a HUGE favourite to beat Garcia.. he was cherry picking him thinking it would be an easy fight. Garcia has the timing, and chin, and and decent all round skills to beat Khan everytime, that was no fluke.

''Khan beat the best ranked fighters in Ring Magazine's ratings at 140'' Bull**** he beat a load of bums and average fighters or past it names, and almost all of them had feather fists. He got a undeserved manufactured title shot against a very weak champion in the most weakest division at which around that time had non stop terrible champions like Gavin Rees, Junior Witter, Souleymayne M'baye, Lamont Peterson, etc even fat past it retired Erik Morales managed to win a belt there lol

Khan cherry picked feather fisted boxers and past it names his entire career. He's been the favourite in every fight he's had apart from Alvarez. If he writes an autobiography it should be called '' cherry picking gone wrong'' haha.

His resume is pretty crap to anyone who doesn't have low standards or isn't biased case they look similar to him

Kotelnik - very weak world champion, feather fisted, slow, average in almost every department. Lost to M'baye and Witter lol!

Malignaggi - Average and very very featherfisted - he was the perfect Khan opponent Khan was always gonna face him, I remember him getting gifts against guys like Ngoudjo and N'dou

Lamont Peterson - beat Khan fair and square! Another average and feather fisted fighter, and he whooped Khan. A troll on here could easily call Peterson a 'bum'.

Julio Diaz - totally past his best, he was ranked about 40th when Khan faced him lol, and it was a really close fight that could've gone either way, I had Diaz winning by 1 point and Diaz even dropped Khan lol.

Luis Collazo - another totally past it 'USA name'. He was some retired average alcoholic brought back lol.Man you are desperate.

Chris Algieri - how many times did Pacman drop this bum lol can't even believe you mentioned him, feather fisted bum/average at best.

Zab Judah - was completely past his best! Hence why he did nothing after the Khan fight! Completely shot.. got a gift against Matthysse.

Maidana - the only decent win Khan has. And he only faced him cause he was a mandatory. He was running all night and was badly hurt, the ref could've easily stopped it.This was a green Maidana, before he was trained by Robert Garcia.. He improved massively by the time he faced Broner and Mayweather. The Khan Maidana faced was the guy who lost every single round to Devon Alexander! and struggled to a majority decision with a fat retired Morales!!! haha.

Your excuses for the Garcia loss was embarassingly cringeworthy and desperate lol!

Khan has just one decent win, the same as Brook. Apart from the Alvarez payday, Khan has been cherry picking bums and past it names and feather fisted guys purposely, you think Khan is gonna face the best at 147 - Spence, Crawford, Thurman - haha there's no chance Khan is going to face them. He's made the longest list of excuses of any boxer ever in history in not facing Kell brook, biggest duck I've seen, he is terrified of losing to him.

Khan is not a 'world class' fighter in my book lol. He couldn't last long at world level. he had a short manufactured forgettable little reign, he never faced the best fighters at all 3 weight divisions he's been at. He has a long list of flaws, no Ring IQ, lacks power, and the obvious one - the worst chin I've ever seen of any top 20 ranked fighter in a division. he clearly could not compete with the top guys.

look at the amount of people who've dropped him
Breidis Prescott -Ko'd in 50 seconds lol against some colombian taxi driver bum lol
Willie Limond - 15 second count - should have been a KO loss against a feather fisted, domestic level fighter.
Danny Garcia - Ko'd in 4 rounds was it lol
Saul Alvarez - looked like he was dead on the canvas lol
Craig Watson - got dropped heavily by Watson who couldn't crack an egg
Michael Gomez - a retired featherweight heavy knockdown
Rachid Drilzane - a guy with a 0% KO ratio dropped him
Julio Diaz

Only thing I agree with you is that he's been good to watch. Usually cause he gets dropped and struggles in every other fight against someone hes's big favourite to beat lol.

Khan isn't even in the top 10 best UK fighters of the last 15 years lol UK has loads of world champions at all times. he should be fighting at domestic/european level, but he's not because he's a big celebrity name because of race/religion..not because of ability/achievements. he's the biggest joke in boxing, and his deluded fans make him an even bigger joke. Your standards are extremely low.

No one called him Loma you ****** bastard no need to throw words in my mouth, pathetic response from a mentally deformed hater throwing the usual insults and questioning the race of posters. You berate his resume but which fighters did he duck at 140lb, to fight for the lineal 140lb title you need to be in the top two and Khan/Garcia were, he got there by beating world class fighters that were ranked in the top 5-10 during his reign as champ. If anyone can win an Olympic medal aged 17 then surely there shoupd be more people out there. Fact of the matter is his resume is 10x better then Kell's who has fought bum after bum and has one good win against Porter which many tend to dispute, his record is extremely padded for someone with 30+ fights how many world champs had he fought again?. Don't expect a pathetic low life bigot / scumbag who sucks Kells **** to have an objective discussion

[Shaz619]

Quite day at the taxi rank ?

Nah it's always busy when your mom visits

[Shaz619]

Most of what you said is obvious to any real boxing fan but the way Hearn has been handling his fighters isn't so obvious. Well it's getting talked about more now anyway how he steers his fighters away from the real tests and sells trash instead which the British public lap up.

Yafai steered away from Inoue.

Burnett steered away from Tete.

Joshua steered away from Parker/Wilder.

Brook steered away from everyone unless it's a payday.

Whyte steered away from everyone decent so he can be a buffer for Joshua or a 2nd all British payday for both.

Josh Kelly will also be managed this way which is a shame as talented as he is he should be thrown in with the Lions early.

It's not a surprise the best cards in the UK this year all were BoxNation cards with BJS vs Lemieux and Rigo vs Lomachenko still to come as well.

It is also pretty apt they are dubbed as Mismatchroom all over the UK.

Well said mate, bigoted skum always spew vile insults whenever matchroom fighters are criticised, Eddie follows a model which is designed to milk gulible casual boxing fans who also judge fighters based on their opinion of their ethnicity at times. Kell Brook is arguably the most protected fighter in british boxing history, he defended his belt against gavin, no no dan for crying out loud speaks volumes of the kind of champ he is and in his first real test he tried to avoid he quit. I agree Boxnation is superior and more value for money, in Decemember alone we get BJS/David, Loma/Rigo and Ali/Cotto from last week