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  • #11
    Sad to see THE Green Belt of boxing history turn into Al Haymon's puppet, or at least that what it's started to look like the last decade. I hope I'm wrong about that. Maybe I am. It's probably not that bad, but it just looks bad sometimes. I won't say they're Al Haymon's puppet, but this feels like a non-measure. This feels like just another stall tactic. There is nothing to investigate. Stevenson has been holding the belt hostage, while Alvarez has gotten paid well to be the dutiful teammate in Stevenson's stable whose job it is to occupy and block the mandatory position forever to allow Stevenson to keep holding the belt hostage.

    There is nothing to investigate. The WBC needs to strip Stevenson, and allow the #2 and #3, Alvarez and Gvozdyk, to fight for the title. Then if they want to do Stevenson a favor, they can put him at #4 and give him first chance to fight the winner of Alvarez-Gvozdyk. Give Stevenson an immediate shot at the title. This way, Stevenson still gets to fight for the title, but it ensures the fight actually happens. Because WITH the belt in hand, Stevenson has not proven himself up to the responsibility of actually fighting the top challengers. But let Gvozdyk win the belt, and he will actually be willing to fight the best.

    That's what sanctioning bodies should be doing more of in the future, if they want to make more money AND grow the sport, which is a win/win. Stop helping duckers get titles. Get the titles into the hands of guys who will actually fight anyone... including the duckers! That way, the duckers will still get their shot at the belt, but so will everyone else. And that way, for the duckers to actually win the belt, they will actually have to beat someone real. And then if they do that, maybe they'll have more confidence afterwards and stop being such huge duckers.

    Something like that. But for now, in order to really max out the potential at light heavyweight the next year, what should be the best division in the sport, the first and most important thing that needs to happen is for Gvozdyk and Alvarez to fight for the belt. That is the only way to force Stevenson to actually fight a real fight if he wants to be champ again, whether fighting the winner of that, or any of the other champs. All of those options would be good by me. But him holding the belt hostage and never fighting anyone good is ruining the division, and that's a shame because this division could actually be something special and historic if not for what Stevenson has been doing to it and is still doing to it.

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    • #12
      make gvozdyk the mandatory,a better fight than Alvarez and jack imo..

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      • #13
        nothing gonna happen man

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        • #14
          alvarez was offered 150k and deciced to seek a step aside agreemnt in the form or multi fight contract with his promoter...

          wbc should have removed him as mando...or forced a purse bid! how can they do anything at this point? they are ignorant to their own damn rules

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          • #15
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
            The author of this article should be fired. Kovalev's HBO contract expired before the purse bid.
            Bit harsh innit? 'which was a big issue with Kovalev, who at the time was negotiating a new exclusive deal with rival network HBO.' It doesn't say he was in a contract merely that he was negotiating a new one. **** man... at worst that comment is open to misinterpretation, and you'd fire someone for that ish? You're a mean dude, man.

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            • #16
              IRS...

              ''We are going to investigate ourselves as why we didn't audit last year, we need consulting as to what to do...'' - IRS

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                Bit harsh innit?
                false information is posted by the authors here repeatedly and it shouldn't be tolerated. it's embarrassing.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
                  Actually, from what everyone said at the time - including Stevenson's own people - Duva was in the middle of negotiating a brand new multi-fight HBO deal for Kovalev.
                  But if that's a valid excuse, when was the fight ever supposed to happen? You blame the exclusive contract, the contract expires, and the new excuse is that you're trying to get another exclusive contract?

                  If that's the case, everybody should just admit Kovalev is the reason the fight never happened. Stevenson was always willing to do the fight as long as the fight was done on whichever network offered the most money. Kovalev was never willing to do the fight on whichever network offered the most money, even when he was a free agent.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    false information is posted by the authors here repeatedly and it shouldn't be tolerated. it's embarrassing.
                    People make mistakes all the time, man, and everyone has their own take on ****... no-one is completely objective. Unless you're the one perfect guy in the world we can talk about stones and glass houses. However my point was that I'm unsure exactly what you're complaining about in this article vis-a-vis Kovalevs HBO contract.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                      People make mistakes all the time
                      if it was an innocent mistake, that's one thing. but usually on this site, it's intentional propaganda.

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