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  • daggum
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    #91
    ali is just a better fighter than ggg and now has a bette resume. canelo vs ali in may 2018. super fight

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      #92
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      Just to clear things up for you: If Cotto said to Golovkin, "Look, I'll fight you for $$XX @ XX Lbs" That's an offer. To tell a reporter that he will only fight all future fights for his then MW belt @ a CW is a condition, not an offer.

      a condition that the B-side Golovkin REFUSED

      refuse
      rɪˈfjuːz/Submit
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      indicate or show that one is not willing to do something

      Golovkin then happily offered to fight JMW's at 154

      just not Cotto or Canelo

      then. you came along and blamed the PROVEN warrior

      get help

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        #93
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        a condition that the B-side Golovkin REFUSED

        refuse
        rɪˈfjuːz/Submit
        verb
        indicate or show that one is not willing to do something

        Golovkin then happily offered to fight JMW's at 154

        just not Cotto or Canelo

        then. you came along and blamed the PROVEN warrior

        get help
        The reason Cotto and Canelo didn't fight G is they were afraid to lose. It would have completely screwed up the Canelo Cotto fight if one of the guys had lost to Golovkin. That's why Cotto paid G to step aside. Then Canelo ducked Golovkin and gave up his title rather than fight him. The Proven Warrior wanted to part of Golovkin.

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          #94
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          The reason Cotto and Canelo didn't fight G is they were afraid to lose.

          it is EXACTLY the opposite

          trust you to be 100% WRONG lol

          FACT: Golovkin ran around for FIVE YEARS saying that he will fight " anyone from 154-168 ".....

          FACT: even AFTER refusing Cotto, Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154..... but nobody will step up

          he was willing to fight at 154 BEFORE 2015, and he was willing to fight at 154 AFTER 2015..... just not against Cotto/Canelo

          FACT: Canelo would have beaten Golovkin at 155..... and Cotto would have given him hell, if not beaten him at 155..... for no other reason than the weight

          so yea, you are completely wrong..... again

          the fact that is so easy for you to throw two PROVEN warriors under a bus..... while completely ignoring Golovkin's lies and bullshht..... is disturbing

          oh, and Hypekin was more than happy to offer Brook/Rosado catchweights

          you clowns need help

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            #95
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            it is EXACTLY the opposite

            trust you to be 100% WRONG lol

            FACT: Golovkin ran around for FIVE YEARS saying that he will fight " anyone from 154-168 ".....

            FACT: even AFTER refusing Cotto, Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154..... but nobody will step up

            he was willing to fight at 154 BEFORE 2015, and he was willing to fight at 154 AFTER 2015..... just not against Cotto/Canelo

            FACT: Canelo would have beaten Golovkin at 155..... and Cotto would have given him hell, if not beaten him at 155..... for no other reason than the weight

            so yea, you are completely wrong..... again

            the fact that is so easy for you to throw two PROVEN warriors under a bus..... while completely ignoring Golovkin's lies and bullshht..... is disturbing

            oh, and Hypekin was more than happy to offer Brook/Rosado catchweights

            you clowns need help
            You mean two fighters that are proven to fight at Catchweights. Canelo proved something to me that he's better than I thought. Cotto never impressed me.

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              #96
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              You mean two fighters that are proven to fight at Catchweights. Canelo proved something to me that he's better than I thought. Cotto never impressed me.

              if Golovkin impresses you more than Cotto does..... then you wouldn't know a good fighter if he punched you in the face

              Cotto > Golovkin

              you admitted that you were wrong about Canelo..... but whether you know it or not, you are also wrong about Cotto

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                #97
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                if Golovkin impresses you more than Cotto does..... then you wouldn't know a good fighter if he punched you in the face

                Cotto > Golovkin

                you admitted that you were wrong about Canelo..... but whether you know it or not, you are also wrong about Cotto
                No I wasn't wrong about Canelo I knew he couldn't beat Golovkin. He was better than I thought. I thought be would get knocked out. He clearly lost but he did manage to last to the end. Again Canello has never impressed me. As far as getting punched in the face I'll pass on that.. But if that's your thing by all means.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  No I wasn't wrong about Canelo I knew he couldn't beat Golovkin. He was better than I thought. I thought be would get knocked out. He clearly lost but he did manage to last to the end. Again Canello has never impressed me. As far as getting punched in the face I'll pass on that.. But if that's your thing by all means.

                  ..... and, you were WRONG

                  if you have never been impressed by Canelo, nor Cotto..... and yet you are impressed by Golovkin..... then I don't know what to say

                  actually, I will say it..... Cotto/Canelo BOTH > Golovkin..... BOTH are better fighters, stylistically and historically..... NO question

                  if you have never been impressed with Cotto/Canelo..... then you are a fanboy, NOT a boxing fan..... because BOTH are better than Golovkin

                  watch how it's done.....

                  I do not like Golovkin at all..... he is a protected network darling, who has failed to live up to his OWN hype..... but is he a helluva fighter?..... you bet, absolutely

                  see, not hard

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    ..... and, you were WRONG

                    if you have never been impressed by Canelo, nor Cotto..... and yet you are impressed by Golovkin..... then I don't know what to say

                    actually, I will say it..... Cotto/Canelo BOTH > Golovkin..... BOTH are better fighters, stylistically and historically..... NO question

                    if you have never been impressed with Cotto/Canelo..... then you are a fanboy, NOT a boxing fan..... because BOTH are better than Golovkin

                    watch how it's done.....

                    I do not like Golovkin at all..... he is a protected network darling, who has failed to live up to his OWN hype..... but is he a helluva fighter?..... you bet, absolutely

                    see, not hard
                    Its obvious your biased against Golovkin. Its your choice. That's fine.. For a guy that's all media hype he's doing pretty damned well. Is there hype? Probably. Has he lived up to it? Yes in my opinion. People were looking for a hard punching come forward fighter. Golovkin delivered that. So what is so hard to understand. He can't control what others say about him. He can't control the media if they want to praise him. He can't control his detractors if they want to criticize him. All he can do is get in the ring and deliver entertaining fights. He does that. His boxing skills are very underrated, he has a great chin, better than average defense and lives a clean life. If you want to go and find fault, go for it. Someone looking as hard as you do for a crack in his armor will find something. Congratulations on being relentlessly negative.
                    Last edited by TonyGe; 12-08-2017, 08:15 PM.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      Its obvious your biased against Golovkin.....

                      you just said that Cotto/Canelo have never impressed you

                      I said that Golovkin is a helluva fighter

                      are... you... absolutely sure you are qualified to judge ?


                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      ..... Its your choice. That's fine.. For a guy that's all media hype he's doing pretty damned well. Is there hype? Probably. Has he lived up to it? Yes in my opinion. People were looking for a hard punching come forward fighter. Golovkin delivered that.....

                      hold on man.....

                      Golovkin ran around for FIVE YEARS saying that he could beat "anyone from 154-168", and you idiots have been heard comparing him to Hagler/Monzon.....

                      the fact is..... Golovkin killed three HUGE fights over weight, and he barely sc****d past Canelo..... truth be known, he likely LOST to Danny Jacobs

                      so that 154-168 myth is well and truly BUSTED, as are the Hagler/Monzon comparisons

                      not only has he fallen way short of what was promised, Golovkin seems reluctant to test himself and will only take fights on his terms

                      I think he understands the business/hype/marketing aspect of boxing very well indeed, as well as the risk/reward aspect


                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      ..... So what is so hard to understand. He can't control what others say about him. He can't control the media if they want to praise him. He can't control his detractors if they want to criticize him. All he can do is get in the ring and deliver entertaining fights. He does that. His boxing skills are very underrated, he has a great chin, better than average defense and lives a clean life. If you want to go and find fault, go for it. Someone looking as hard as you do for a crack in his armor will find something. Congratulations on being relentlessly negative.

                      cut your bullshht

                      Golovkin has done a masterful job controlling the media

                      he made the following statement AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo..... neither the inept fawning media - nor any of you clowns - called him out on his bullshht.....





                      and don't reply saying..... "Golovkin never said that personally"..... because you and I have already been there.....

                      aside from being 100% responsible/accountable for his OFFICIAL representatives..... Golovkin has clearly played along with it, and he has clearly played it up..... also, he said all that damn shht himself, dating back to 2012

                      I got links, as you know..... just ask, again

                      YOU ran with that hype and bullshht, even if you had to throw BETTER fighters under a bus to pull it off

                      #collateraldamage
                      #fansnotfanboys
                      Last edited by aboutfkntime; 12-08-2017, 09:08 PM.

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