Carl Froch vs. Gennady Golovkin @ 168.

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  • j0zef
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    #31
    Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
    Good fight 50/50 imo, don't forget Froch destroyed an undefeated Bute and took his soul, clearly Golovkin is stronger mentally and physically but Froch still has a good chance of ripping him apart, but Golovkin could break down Froch's body and stop him late
    Heh, not the best example since Golovkin knocked Bute out in the World Championships when they were both amateurs.



    Originally posted by Ray Corso
    Here's a solid reason why Canelo and Jacobs didn't get stopped.

    They RAN, they did not step in the bucket and fight! The reason is very simple why take that chance!
    After a round they knew that there best chance was to keep GGG feet moving and chasing.

    Froch can't box a lick and he would need to step to GGG and work him. I don't think he fares well doing that.
    GGG has a great double jab and although he doesn't use as much as he should it would set up combos and Froch doesn't have the skills to counter that attack.


    I will say that Canelo has his chance the next time to step and take it to Golovkin! GGG does not have the same legs
    and he doesn't move his head as often as he needs to when someone brings it.


    Froch 6' 74" reach 168/180lbs.
    GGG 5' 10" 70" reach 160/172lbs.


    Ray
    Golovkin's reach is actually sort of disputed. There have been several tales of the tape where his reach was stated as 74/75", not 70. For example here:

    It would explain why his jab is so successful even against some fighters who are bigger than him.

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    • Deletrious
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      #32
      Froch had bad footwork and bad defense, honestly he's tailor made to make Golovkin look great. Froch has a punchers chance the first half of the fight but Golovkin is defensively responsible when he respects his opponents power.

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      • FrankieClutch
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        #33
        I think Froch is a bit too wild and throws wide punches. I think GGG wins a jab fest, but that's assuming he has the same amount of power at 168

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #34
          Originally posted by Ray Corso
          Here's a solid reason why Canelo and Jacobs didn't get stopped.

          They RAN, they did not step in the bucket and fight! The reason is very simple why take that chance!
          After a round they knew that there best chance was to keep GGG feet moving and chasing.

          Froch can't box a lick and he would need to step to GGG and work him. I don't think he fares well doing that.
          GGG has a great double jab and although he doesn't use as much as he should it would set up combos and Froch doesn't have the skills to counter that attack.


          I will say that Canelo has his chance the next time to step and take it to Golovkin! GGG does not have the same legs
          and he doesn't move his head as often as he needs to when someone brings it.


          Froch 6' 74" reach 168/180lbs.
          GGG 5' 10" 70" reach 160/172lbs.


          Ray
          Froch consistently came to the ring between 172 - 174Lbs best I can recall. Despite seeming a physically imposing guy he was actually generally lighter than the guys he stepped in the ring with. He's one of the few fighters in recent times who stayed relatively close to the weight limits of his class.

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          • Cutthroat
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            #35
            ggg is coming off 2 arguable losses where he went the distance with a career JMW and a chinny MW and now people think he can beat one of the greatest 168lbers of all time?

            People also saying Froch can't box, seriously? If Froch couldn't box he wouldn't have out boxed Abraham, Johnson or Kessler in the rematch.

            Even if ggg manages to knock him down his opponents all get up and put leather on his chin.

            8 rounds to stop Lemieux after he got up
            11 rounds to stop Murray
            8 rounds to stop Stevens
            7 rounds stop Rosado
            6 rounds to stop Monroe

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            • Cutthroat
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ray Corso
              Here's a solid reason why Canelo and Jacobs didn't get stopped.

              They RAN, they did not step in the bucket and fight! The reason is very simple why take that chance!
              After a round they knew that there best chance was to keep GGG feet moving and chasing.
              Canelo literally stayed on the ropes half the fight, that is not running. ggg refused to throw anything in fear of getting countered by a puncher that couldn't even put down zombie Chavez. The gifs, the videos, they all show Canelo landing clean counters while all ggg could do was throw those pitty pat jabs.

              Jacobs stayed in front of ggg as well, his basic counter punching worked because ggg is so limited.

              Froch can't box a lick and he would need to step to GGG and work him. I don't think he fares well doing that.
              GGG has a great double jab and although he doesn't use as much as he should it would set up combos and Froch doesn't have the skills to counter that attack.
              Froch can't box? He thoroughly out-boxed Abraham, Johnson, Kessler in the rematch and a host of others. He has a very powerful jab that would've knocked ggg's head off.

              If anyone can't box it's ggg. He got his face busted up vs Brook and said he lost all the rounds. His fanboys think he beat Canelo simply because he came forward. He arguably lost to Daniel Jacobs of all people. Ouma also gave him absolute hell, that fight was dead even at the stoppage.

              ggg has NEVER out boxed someone as good as prime Abraham let alone as thoroughly.



              Originally posted by j0zef
              Heh, not the best example since Golovkin knocked Bute out in the World Championships when they were both amateurs.
              Bute had ggg take a standing count, that count allowed ggg to recover and get a KO himself. In a pro fight there is no standing 8 and ggg would've been stopped or in far worse shape. Bute was arguably beating ggg at the time absolutely lighting him up.
              Last edited by Cutthroat; 11-30-2017, 02:51 PM.

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              • stealthradon
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                #37
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                ggg is coming off 2 arguable losses where he went the distance with a career JMW and a chinny MW and now people think he can beat one of the greatest 168lbers of all time?

                People also saying Froch can't box, seriously? If Froch couldn't box he wouldn't have out boxed Abraham, Johnson or Kessler in the rematch.

                Even if ggg manages to knock him down his opponents all get up and put leather on his chin.

                8 rounds to stop Lemieux after he got up
                11 rounds to stop Murray
                8 rounds to stop Stevens
                7 rounds stop Rosado
                6 rounds to stop Monroe
                Froch arguably lost to Kessler in the rematch.
                Kessler had the cleaner shots, and he made Froch miss all night.

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                • Ray Corso
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                  #38
                  "Abraham, Johnson, Kessler"................big deal!

                  You people act like these are great talents. Their ordinary fighters.
                  Which one these men are HoF or ATG's?

                  Just because a current day fighter is in a top ten rating doesn't make them highly regarded talents.

                  "Bute had ggg take a standing count, that count allowed ggg to recover and get a KO himself."................huh?

                  So who got the Ko? hahaha you give credit for "almost" getting a win?

                  Bottom line is Jacobs and Canelo are consider the best Middleweights in BACK of GGG.
                  In my opinion GGG won both fights your welcomed to your opinions.

                  Froch is not in Golovkin's league, another fellow hiding in the "junior weight classes".

                  ""he went the distance with a career JMW and a chinny MW"

                  career JMW who has been weighing over 170 for fights for years now! A "chinny" man who has been stopped ONCE
                  in 35 bouts.

                  "Jacobs stayed in front of ggg as well" ..........
                  yeah for all of 20% of the duration.

                  They both did well when they confronted GGG BUT they didn't stay there long enough to win.
                  You guys pick out segments of a round instead of evaluating the full three minutes of 12 rounds.

                  Froch has to make garbage statements every month or he would have been completely forgotten by now.

                  Ray

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                  • redmish
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                    #39
                    I don't even care who would win because this would be my choice for a dream fight. GGG would definitely not KO froch and vice versa. It's a 12 round war that would have been remembered for a long time. 1 or 2 rounds in it, either way.

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                    • b00g13man
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                      #40
                      Froch. Too big. Too strong.

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