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  • #11
    Originally posted by MaksBox View Post
    I think he meant Barrera vs Ward...

    I think Barrera did pretty well there.
    Correct Barrera vs Ward.

    Ward was very gassed by the late rounds, Barrera landed some solid jabs, just listen to Virgil in b/w the late rounds, it felt like Ward was worried or there was something really strange and Virgil had to baby Ward and instill confidence in him as if Ward was questioning his stamina if he could go all rounds.

    But if you listen to some people it would be, Ward completely dominated Barrera, it was too easy, Barrera is not good, Barrera is very slow and hence he is garbage or the usual rhetoric.

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    • #12
      He'll obviously select Kovalev. He's a bigger name and he's already lost. Bivol is young, hungry and lesser known of the two.

      Barrera would lose to both, by KO/TKO, but Kovalev is the easier of the two IMO.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by MaksBox View Post
        I think he meant Barrera vs Ward...

        I think Barrera did pretty well there.
        Oh no way...... can't believe I missed that..... Yeah Barrera won 1-2 rounds and got knocked down, while Kovalev won 6 to 9 and scored a knockdown in the first fight. But the fanboy narrative is that Kovalev "got dominated" by Ward in both of their fights, while Barrera "did really solid," I guess because Barrera has darker skin than Kovalev, or something? Beats me.

        I guess suddenly because Ward "stopped" Kovalev with nutshots despite never dropping him once, the narrative with really ****** people has suddenly changed to Ward being this huge knockout artist, and therefore Barrera is viewed as this borderline top fighter just for lasting 12 rounds with Ward. I guess these dummies aren't aware that Alexander Brand and almost every other B-level boxer Ward has fought has made it the distance. I can't speak to A-level opponents because Ward has never had one except Kovalev who they cherry picked during a huge dip in his career, starting with Chilemba, because they had spies in his camp who told them exactly when his focus on boxing was waning.

        But whatever, I just hope we get great fights in 2018 between prime fighters. In the spirit of that, I hope that Kovalev, GGG, and every other aging fighter is able to maintain their primes in 2018, and that the fights are made in 2018 in order to ensure that as much as is possible. I would say I hope the say for Stevenson too, but after all his ducking, I must admit in this one case, I've become just like the LDBC fans who just want to see black boxers win, and they don't care whether it comes against prime opponents or not. Except I don't care about seeing black boxers lose, I just want to see Stevenson lose (preferably to Kovalev) after ducking him for so long. But it would be nice to see the fight with both in their primes, and that way even if Kovalev loses to him, we will have gotten to see a true outcome, which is what the sport needs, not one manipulated by age and ducking.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
          Oh no way...... can't believe I missed that..... Yeah Barrera won 1-2 rounds and got knocked down, while Kovalev won 6 to 9 and scored a knockdown in the first fight. But the fanboy narrative is that Kovalev "got dominated" by Ward in both of their fights, while Barrera "did really solid," I guess because Barrera has darker skin than Kovalev, or something? Beats me.

          I guess suddenly because Ward "stopped" Kovalev with nutshots despite never dropping him once, the narrative with really ****** people has suddenly changed to Ward being this huge knockout artist, and therefore Barrera is viewed as this borderline top fighter just for lasting 12 rounds with Ward. I guess these dummies aren't aware that Alexander Brand and almost every other B-level boxer Ward has fought has made it the distance. I can't speak to A-level opponents because Ward has never had one except Kovalev who they cherry picked during a huge dip in his career, starting with Chilemba, because they had spies in his camp who told them exactly when his focus on boxing was waning.

          But whatever, I just hope we get great fights in 2018 between prime fighters. In the spirit of that, I hope that Kovalev, GGG, and every other aging fighter is able to maintain their primes in 2018, and that the fights are made in 2018 in order to ensure that as much as is possible. I would say I hope the say for Stevenson too, but after all his ducking, I must admit in this one case, I've become just like the LDBC fans who just want to see black boxers win, and they don't care whether it comes against prime opponents or not. Except I don't care about seeing black boxers lose, I just want to see Stevenson lose (preferably to Kovalev) after ducking him for so long. But it would be nice to see the fight with both in their primes, and that way even if Kovalev loses to him, we will have gotten to see a true outcome, which is what the sport needs, not one manipulated by age and ducking.
          Who has said that? I didn't. The first fight was close, could've gone to either Kova or Ward. The second fight Kova *****ed out and that's that

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          • #15
            I think vs Barrera would be closer than people think. and if he kos him fast like most think that's impressive.

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            • #16
              Barrera is too chinny for KKKovalev.

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              • #17
                Anyone thinking Kovalev will go for Beterbiev or Bivol next is fooked in the head... The likes of Smith Jr, Fonfara, Mikhalkin or Browne would be adequate ... By that I mean a credible fight...

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                • #18
                  I wonder who the 4th light heavyweight will be for the card

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                  • #19
                    i'd pick bivol lol
                    the belt will give him more bargain against other champ for greater $

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                    • #20
                      Bivol hasn't had the development to beat Kovalev

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