of course not. he meant to avoid all challenges just in case he loses? most people thought he won the 1st fight anyway. its boxing, one guy wins and the other one doesnt, people get too hung up on losses, who cares if they dont have an 0. Theres a few exceptions but most fighters who have an 0 have it cause theyve done everything to protect it, it shouldnt be worn around like some badge of honour. Undefeated is usually code word for not taking many challenges.If you fight on world level consistently youll probably pick up a loss.
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In Hindsight, Should Kovalev have avoided Andre Ward?
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Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View PostNo, we don't. First fight was close and could have gone either way..
'close fight could of gone either way'
2nd fight:
' ward would of won anyway'
' kovalev quit'
' ward ruins lives'
truely pathetic bunch
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View PostI think the entire issue is Kovalev,he started believing his own hype and stopped listening to the person who helped get him there
I’ve always liked Ward. I’m just very critical of his career. Barely any fights in 14 years and held/hugged so much.
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ive always liked kovalev....still have respect for him
but i wonder if we shouldnt have sort of seen this coming
he couldnt put old b hop away....and when that happened his fanboys screamed that he wanted to put in rounds and "felt bad" for the old man....he struggled with chilemba....now i know chilemba is a tough out and tricky...but he was also not in his kovs "class"....then the 2nd half of the 1st ward fight......i dunno.....def should have seen teh alvarez loss coming at least......them colombians can always bang
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ive always liked kovalev....still have respect for him
but i wonder if we shouldnt have sort of seen this coming
he couldnt put old b hop away....and when that happened his fanboys screamed that he wanted to put in rounds and "felt bad" for the old man....he struggled with chilemba....now i know chilemba is a tough out and tricky...but he was also not in his kovs "class"....then the 2nd half of the 1st ward fight......i dunno.....def should have seen teh alvarez loss coming at least......them colombians can always bang
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i never thought kovalev was that invincible or that powerful. he's a LHW, as you have seen recently, they can pretty much all punch hard enough to hurt you. he threw hard, straight shots and he knew when and where to throw them. tyson would knock guys half way across the ring and hit you three times off of a pivot. and he was a HW. completely unique, once in a lifetime fighter. student of the game, technical, his limitations were his size and his sanity.
kovalev was just a sound puncher and HBO needed a villain to fight andre ward. they made him out to be a lot more than he was. a solid fighter, a top 10 p4p guy for a while, but certainly nobody to be remembered in 25 years.
he also very easily could have gotten a nod over past prime ward in the first fight. iw as there and bascally everybodyin my section and in the casino after the fight thought he kovalev won.
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Absolutely not.
The best should always fight the best, you win some, you lose some but fighters fight, everybody else just speculates.
Kovalev won the first fight and was a victim of ref bias. Andre Ward though son of god, is a also a student of dirty tactics. Known for being a unicorn with his head, a lot of those body shots were low and the red let it go.
Kovalev would’ve lost the rematch regardless but could’ve faired better with a better red.
Ultimately both Andre Ward in the rematch and Eleider Alvarez were better
Men when they faced off, no excuses.
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