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  • #71
    Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
    he issue is how much you all overrate the win over Klitz and act as if AJ is the greatest and as if hes miles ahead of wilder.
    Nothing to do with the respective merits of each of them as boxers, everything to do with the respective financial interest they bring to the table.

    AJ has taken on bigger fighters at an earlier stage in his career and has benefitted from a UK audience that still hungers for a HW champion. He fights in front of 90,000 people and he sells on PPV. Therefore he makes 10-15m a fight, 10 times what Wilder is making.

    It may not be fair given they'd both be risking everything stepping in the ring with each other, but share of revenue is related to what you're worth commercially and AJ is currently worth 10 times Wilder.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
      I don't have an issue with aj having a better resume than wilder or any HW at 20 fights, ill look it up and see but im sure there can be arguments made in that area, the issue is how much you all overrate the win over Klitz and act as if AJ is the greatest and as if hes miles ahead of wilder.
      There is nothing to overate bc Wilder doesnt come close to Joshua resume and one would have to be a fool to think otherwise . There will be no arguments made in that area bc i KNOW boxing and the closest one was Ali who defeatted OUT of prime Liston in his 20th fight.

      Not only has Joshua defeatted a VERY prepared Klitchko who used GREAT footwork in that fight but hes already unified titles .

      What did Wilder do again ? I missed that part .

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      • #73
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        There is nothing to overate bc Wilder doesnt come close to Joshua resume and one would have to be a fool to think otherwise . There will be no arguments made in that area bc i KNOW boxing and the closest one was Ali who defeatted OUT of prime Liston in his 20th fight.

        Not only has Joshua defeatted a VERY prepared Klitchko who used GREAT footwork in that fight but hes already unified titles .

        What did Wilder do again ? I missed that part .
        LMAOOOOOOOOOOO man stop it, klitz had a war with Bryant Jennings, lost to fury and was off damn near 2 years, this is where u guys makes fools of yourselves, it was a pretty good win but STOOOOP!!! and unfortunately wilder hasn't had the chance to fight better comp due to.... nevermind its not like ull take it into consideration anyways.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Holler View Post
          Exactly. Wilder needs Joshua far more than AJ needs Wilder.

          Joshua can seek a unification fight with Parker, winner of Haye/Bellew, maybe then an IBF mandatory with Whyte and then perhaps a returning Tyson Fury, each of which would do good business and the Fury fight perhaps bigger than Wilder, certainly in the UK. No doubt others will be along if well promoted, Miller perhaps?

          This leaves AJ perhaps £60m+ richer whilst Wilder is out in the cold making 10 times less per fight. Meanwhile Wilder is 33 pushing 34 and AJ is improving in strength and experience every time he steps into the ring.

          If Wilder believes his own hype he should drop his unrealistic demands and take Joshua's belts from him in the ring. Once he's done that he's in the driving seat. It's in his interests to do this soon so we'll soon see how genuine his belief is. If he won't drop his demands he's not confident of beating Joshua and is thus seeking a big payday before he loses his belt. If he takes a cut reflecting his commercial pull then we'll know he believes what he says.
          Exactly my thoughts!

          As I said before, the best thing Wilder can do as the B-side is accept 25-30% of the revenue AND WIN THE FIGHT. Then in the rematch you can push for at least 50-50 and he'll get that easily. Just like Bellew did with Haye.

          This is the most realistic scenario if he wants the big money, he can't come in talking 50-50 or anything close to that on the first go around with no leverage. As many have pointed out 25% against AJ is probably 5x more than he's made in a fight.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
            LMAOOOOOOOOOOO man stop it, klitz had a war with Bryant Jennings, lost to fury and was off damn near 2 years, this is where u guys makes fools of yourselves, it was a pretty good win but STOOOOP!!! and unfortunately wilder hasn't had the chance to fight better comp due to.... nevermind its not like ull take it into consideration anyways.
            crapping on joshuas wins while making excuses for Wilders lack of.

            and im sure you think you're being totally unbiased lmao

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            • #76
              Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
              LMAOOOOOOOOOOO man stop it, klitz had a war with Bryant Jennings, lost to fury and was off damn near 2 years, this is where u guys makes fools of yourselves, it was a pretty good win but STOOOOP!!! and unfortunately wilder hasn't had the chance to fight better comp due to.... nevermind its not like ull take it into consideration anyways.
              Well you must have been drunk jf you think Jennings gave Klitchko a WAR ?


              Lucky one of us actually follows boxing (me ) so i can tell you Klitchko was given instructions by Banks to just out box Jennings and wait on the K..O which Ali Bashir (look him up ) was furiated with bc he states Klitchko could have knocked Jennings out in the early rnds .

              Wilder hasnt had the chance to fight better comp bc he AVOIDED Klitchko ( that oldman you refer to ?? DUH . lol ) and HAND picked voluntarys some MAGICALLY were actually placed in the top 10 prior to fighting him ? lol
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-14-2017, 01:05 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Split Decision View Post
                crapping on joshuas wins while making excuses for Wilders lack of.

                and im sure you think you're being totally unbiased lmao
                I said its a good win, but its very overrated, wilder simply doesn't have bigger names due to failed test. not sure how im being biased as a stated I like both guys. I just think Joshua is being overrated and the klits win is usually the basis on which its done.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  Well you must have been drunk jf you think Jennings gave Klitchko a WAR ?


                  Lucky one of us actually follows boxing (me ) so i can tell you Klitchko was given instructions by Banks to just out box Jennings and wait on the K..O which Ali Bashir (look him up ) was furiated with bc he states Klitchko could have knocked Jennings out in the early rnds .

                  Wilder hasnt had the chance to fight better comp bc he AVOIDED Klitchko ( that oldman you refer to ?? DUH . lol ) and HAND picked voluntarys some MAGICALLY were actually placed in the top 10 prior to fighting him ? lol
                  when wilder fought Molina u all say he struggled!!! which was not the case he kicked his azz the whole fight and was caught with a good shot that everyone brings up as a basis on rating the fight. Klits struggled with Jennings if that's the case. but whatever u say brother. u will wiggle away with anything u can.

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                  • #79
                    Keep seeing BUT BUT joshua resume is not much better then Wilders.. Wilder is 4 years older and has 20 more fighters.. the fact that his resume is worse is pathetic.

                    Pretty clear the guy wants to check out now and get a payday vs a real champ who actually does ppv

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                    • #80
                      wilder should accept whatever bone joshua throws him. hes the B side in this and brings nothing to the negotiating table really, all hes got is a garbage resume and no fan base. Time for him to know his place

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