What is with organizations and steroids?

[jmrf4435]

Povetkin back in a few weeks, Ortiz can apply for reinstatement march 22 2018 and it's up to the WBA discretion.

He'll for sure be back in abut about year, which is not a ton longer than fighters wait in between fights anyways.

It seems boxing just doesn't have enough star power for top organizations to drop bigger name fighters, as if they would be cutting a part of their company that is producing.

This stems into a question that keeps coming to mind. What financial incentive do sanctioning bodies have for big names, fights, events ect. Do they get a cut? Is there an under the table pay out? I don't see why the organizations want the ortiz's, povetkins, pederson still fighting. Is it not dangerous? I know generally how money is divided between promoter, network, and fighter-trainer. But where do the organizations come into play-The more I look into this the more SKETCH boxing looks.

They dont regulate or ensure fairness, I think the orgs are profit machines only interesting in margin, and all of their decisions are based on such. They will always ALWAYS favor the floyds and the mcgregors.

It seems like investing in steroids far outweighs the long terms risks than not. A few impressive fights from a guy that's juicing can get him a huge Haymon or top rank contract, doesn't even seem like a good amateur career is necessary anymore. On top of that, your only looking at 18 months MAX IF you get caught.

Are using steroids in boxing actually a smart move?

[Lopez_Boxing]

They should have a steroid league and a clean league. See which one generates more money and invest in what the people want to see

[soul_survivor]

Sport is corrupt, its sad but true.

[jmrf4435]

They should have a steroid league and a clean league. See which one generates more money and invest in what the people want to see

I think current boxing may be a steroid league. N one cares anymore, except a few fans

[Lopez_Boxing]

I think current boxing may be a steroid league. N one cares anymore, except a few fans

You’re right. I mean when 2 boxers agree to not have testing they are basically saying let’s juice.

[boliodogs]

From what I have read about Ortiz's case he may not have been trying to cheat at all. Sometimes they try so hard to catch a cheat that they catch a guy who wasn't cheating but was ignorant of all the many banned substances, some of which can be purchased over the counter and have legit uses besides cheating at boxing.

[Larry the boss]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[john l]

Povetkin back in a few weeks, Ortiz can apply for reinstatement march 22 2018 and it's up to the WBA discretion.

He'll for sure be back in abut about year, which is not a ton longer than fighters wait in between fights anyways.

It seems boxing just doesn't have enough star power for top organizations to drop bigger name fighters, as if they would be cutting a part of their company that is producing.

This stems into a question that keeps coming to mind. What financial incentive do sanctioning bodies have for big names, fights, events ect. Do they get a cut? Is there an under the table pay out? I don't see why the organizations want the ortiz's, povetkins, pederson still fighting. Is it not dangerous? I know generally how money is divided between promoter, network, and fighter-trainer. But where do the organizations come into play-The more I look into this the more SKETCH boxing looks.

They dont regulate or ensure fairness, I think the orgs are profit machines only interesting in margin, and all of their decisions are based on such. They will always ALWAYS favor the floyds and the mcgregors.

It seems like investing in steroids far outweighs the long terms risks than not. A few impressive fights from a guy that's juicing can get him a huge Haymon or top rank contract, doesn't even seem like a good amateur career is necessary anymore. On top of that, your only looking at 18 months MAX IF you get caught.

Are using steroids in boxing actually a smart move?

These alpha bit boys don't care about anything but MONEY.aND I THINK 18mhs would be good for 1st time(I could go longer a little 2)3 years for #2 at the very least and LIFE for anymore then2.You wait its gonna happen somone gonna die or get perm hurt and their opp gonna test positive after and s hite will hit fan.Lawsuits for promoters,docters,vada itslf.And the headlines and crys for banning the sport.It wont be good it will make LESS people want to advertise and when it starts getting back to networks(the people WHO really run boxing)you will see them put less $ into our sport.

[jmrf4435]

These alpha bit boys don't care about anything but MONEY.aND I THINK 18mhs would be good for 1st time(I could go longer a little 2)3 years for #2 at the very least and LIFE for anymore then2.You wait its gonna happen somone gonna die or get perm hurt and their opp gonna test positive after and s hite will hit fan.Lawsuits for promoters,docters,vada itslf.And the headlines and crys for banning the sport.It wont be good it will make LESS people want to advertise and when it starts getting back to networks(the people WHO really run boxing)you will see them put less $ into our sport.

It's a complete joke--we might as well not have the sanctioning bodies, just let the belts go to winners of fights..

It's not even a big deal to get caught with anabolics, slap on wrist then pay me more money. it's insane.
. In economics in college, there was a chapter on "payoffs" essentially payoffs are necessary even in non corrupt nations, whether under the table or as a settlment int the court of law. Money allows for the problem between the two parties to be resolved quicker, cheaper, and more efficiently. Costing public and private representatives less money in the long run. In this case, the sanctioning bodies realize if they banned povetkin or ruiz for life, it would be a drawn out court battle, maybe taking years and millions from all parties involved.

[john l]

It's a complete joke--we might as well not have the sanctioning bodies, just let the belts go to winners of fights..

It's not even a big deal to get caught with anabolics, slap on wrist then pay me more money. it's insane.
. In economics in college, there was a chapter on "payoffs" essentially payoffs are necessary even in non corrupt nations, whether under the table or as a settlment int the court of law. Money allows for the problem between the two parties to be resolved quicker, cheaper, and more efficiently. Costing public and private representatives less money in the long run. In this case, the sanctioning bodies realize if they banned povetkin or ruiz for life, it would be a drawn out court battle, maybe taking years and millions from all parties involved.

They don't have to bann them.they just don't have to rate them.(at least not high enough to EVER force a mand)If there worried about lawsuits.And track and field org(whatever thats called)don't go out of buis evertime they catch somebody.The alpha bit boys only get in trouble when they don't follow their own studid rules(fres and few others).