Comments Thread For: Cletus Seldin Beats Down, Stops Roberto Ortiz in Three

[Mexican_Puppet]

Ortiz's been on a downward slide for the last 2 years this was not an impressive win anyway and this guy is just so limited once he fights someone that has have some ability forget anyone in the top 10 he will not beat anyone in the top 10 in his weight...

Ortiz always was a trash.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Nobody talking about the elbow?

That was impressive.

Ortiz is trash and was losing bad the fight but this fight should be a DQ to Cletus.

That elbow was dirty as ****.

I never watch something like that.

[deanrw]

Cletus Seldin has tested positive for PEDs twice this year, in February and June. Yet here he is fighting in November of the same year. That's boxing.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...s-testosterone

WTF? So as long as a fighter discloses he is under doctored administered Testosterone treatment they are basically allowed to cheat. Over 20/1 TE ratio. Mickey Bey level stuff.

[Pigeons]

WTF? So as long as a fighter discloses he is under doctored administered Testosterone treatment they are basically allowed to cheat. Over 20/1 TE ratio. Mickey Bey level stuff.

From what I understand TRT is a legal medical treatment for people with abnormally low testosterone. So if your T is below 1:1, you can undergo TRT to get it closer to that 4:1 level. It is under no circumstance meant to get your T to a 20+:1 level. In addition to that, he tested positive for an anabolic steroid in his first positive PED test in February. As if we needed anymore evidence that he wasn't doing it for a medicinal purpose, huh? The guy is a walking chem lab. Just like Mickey Bey. Just like Alexander Povetkin. Just like Luis Ortiz. Boxing has a problem.

[deanrw]

From what I understand TRT is a legal medical treatment for people with abnormally low testosterone. So if your T is below 1:1, you can undergo TRT to get it closer to that 4:1 level. It is under no circumstance meant to get your T to a 20+:1 level. In addition to that, he tested positive for an anabolic steroid in his first positive PED test in February. As if we needed anymore evidence that he wasn't doing it for a medicinal purpose, huh? The guy is a walking chem lab. Just like Mickey Bey. Just like Alexander Povetkin. Just like Luis Ortiz. Boxing has a problem.

Yeah to me it is just cheaters looking to cover their tracks. Povetkin with the "well it used to be legal" Ortiz with "doctor prescribed!!"

If they were one offs, I could overlook it. Ortiz, Povetkin and now that Seldin all had a previous history though. If that does not raise alarms I don't know what will. I see it like this. If a fighter is not naturally healthy enough to fight, they should not be allowed to fight.