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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    Marquez is retired and he is very old. At this point in time he isn't as good as the much younger Pacquiao who is pretty damn old himself. For example Bradley beat Marquez and then lost by a wide margin to Pacquiao. In reality Pacquiao clearly beat Horn but got robbed in spite of Horn being allowed to fight an extremely dirty fight. Horn isn't very good and needs a helpful referee and paid off judges to beat any good fighter. Even today's very old and far past prime Marquez could beat Horn on neutral ground with fair officials. Pacquiao landed double the amount of punches that Horn did and he is the harder puncher. He almost KOed Horn in the 9th. How in the hell can he land twice as many punches and not win? It was a real bad robbery. Horn is fighting a guy ranked 70th by boxrec with his hometown built in advantage. He will win that fight. Then he must fight Crawford and Crawford will knock him out in front of his hometown fans.

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    • Gigantes
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      #12
      Originally posted by allanperlee
      Marquez wanted that fifth division belt so badly, i dont know why he didn't go after Pacquiao, or a Bradley rematch, or even Porter when he was the IBF champion. He would sometimes choose the wrong fights and he wasted his time on mike Alvarado. He's probably too far gone to fight horn, but horn is tailor made for Marquez. He does better against pressure fighters. Horn isnt even at the level of Juan Diaz sort of fighter.
      When Pacquiao got the belt back from Bradley that would've been a great time to go for that belt. Porter I think would've been a bit much for him.

      Agreed, no reason to have fought Alvarado.

      Horn IS tailor made but it should still be a fight he could/should win.

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      • RomanReigns
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        #13
        His legs are shot. Should have fought Danny Garcia, or even Shawn Porter if he wants to win a 5th title back then.

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        • Gigantes
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          #14
          Originally posted by RomanReigns
          His legs are shot. Should have fought Danny Garcia, or even Shawn Porter if he wants to win a 5th title back then.
          Yea you're right, besides Horn, another person he could've won a belt from was Garcia.

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          • allanperlee
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            #15
            Agree 100% with you man

            Originally posted by Gigantes
            When Pacquiao got the belt back from Bradley that would've been a great time to go for that belt. Porter I think would've been a bit much for him.

            Agreed, no reason to have fought Alvarado.

            Horn IS tailor made but it should still be a fight he could/should win.
            Still the way he looked against alvarado, he could have given Manny a great right and he was still sharp enough to tango with Porter. Both would have been thrilling fights. At this stage, Marquez would edge the Hornet.

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            • Redd Foxx
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              #16
              Marquez??? How many years has it been since he fought???
              This site never ceases to amaze and disappoint.

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              • WesternChamp
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                #17
                Originally posted by Gigantes
                Why isn't this a fight Marquez is pursuing? Surely he'd be able to beat him while picking up his belt in 147 that he's been wanting. He'd be able to really go out on a nice retirement fight.
                because marquez cant even finish a full training camp without getting injured. should have never juice this late in his career.

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                • W1LL
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                  #18
                  JMM is too old. Horny takes it on points.

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                  • Gigantes
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by allanperlee
                    Still the way he looked against alvarado, he could have given Manny a great right and he was still sharp enough to tango with Porter. Both would have been thrilling fights. At this stage, Marquez would edge the Hornet.
                    Yup, even at this stage he should still be able to edge out a victory and get that belt

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                    • Disturbed
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Gigantes
                      I thought Marquez was retired after losing to Bradley, but he fought Alvarado. I thought Alvarado was too big yet Marquez was able to almost knock Alvarado out of the ring (from one end to the other lol), something not even Rios or Ruslan was able to do.

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                      Yeah but that fight was long time ago. It has been such a long time since he trained for a fight (unless he has been training despite retiring)

                      That being said, ~2010 Marquez beats Horn any time of Horn's career

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