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  • #51
    Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
    Wilder seems to have a lot of fans on the Internet that swear he's the best Heavyweight that's been around in a long, long time. Apparently Joshua is too scared of him to fight because it's a mismatch. Those are the folks I'm talking about.
    No one is saying Wilder is the best heavyweight ever. None of his true fans think so. However, Wilder is good at what he does and has God-given weapons and advantages that will make it hard to beat him in any era. You cannot buy height, reach, agility, speed and power in any store. You either have them. If Wilder did not have even 1 of the above items I mentioned, he will be having more issues. These tools are why we see him beating AJ.

    However, Wilder has been given these things - in an unorthodox and sometimes clumsy way, he is able to use them to his advantage in the boxing ring, but many delusional folks like you want to diminish that. His results speak for himself. Knocking out 240+ lbs folks is not easy but you will always continue to diminish that, talking crap.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
      For a guy who is not good, there seems to be efforts made to avoid him. Who is the good one then? Klitschko even in his prime was getting knocked down by Samuel Peters and Corrie Sanders, so stop the crap acting as if he was this unbeatable person. Everyone, including AJ, also knew of Wlad's tendency to punch and lean on people, most of whom were shorter than him. When he fought folks as tall or taller than him, he struggled. The problem with most of you is that everything in the past is always better, when in reality it isn't.

      I am certain AJ, Wilder and Fury will hold their own in any generation and may be able to dominate. These guys are much bigger than the heavyweights of the past. They are good fighters heading towards the very good. We need more time from time to determine if they can be great as greatness requires longevity.

      Further, who knows if former heavyweights were doping or not? Acting like they were unbeatable is just plain ridiculous.
      Statistcally Wlad's prime was after he hooked up with Steward, take his punch output and general work rate 2009-2011, it's not an opinion it's a fact. I'm sure if you listen to AJ fan boys they'll tell you Klitschko's prime was against AJ, you've only to look at the comment blogged on my wall by Plunger to realise the depth of ******ity of the casual fan base of AJ, fortunately their is some distance between myself and that fan base. Not a brush I'd like to be tainted with.

      When he fought Wach, Thompson, Pianeta and Pulev he struggled right ?

      I just love it when guys who know fück all about Klitschko come in and think they can discuss his career having seen three fights of his, Haye Fury and Joshua. Laughable, Wlad struggled alright when he fought Fury he was in a clear state of decline, notably his punch output against Jennings had and was waning, against Fury even more so and against Joshua 18 months on from his last fight having notably struggled the past two years 18 months of that being inactivity.

      You make me laugh.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
        Wilder seems to have a lot of fans on the Internet that swear he's the best Heavyweight that's been around in a long, long time. Apparently Joshua is too scared of him to fight because it's a mismatch. Those are the folks I'm talking about.
        Odd. Joshua already said he wants him, Hearn has said he wants to build the fight. I understand Wilder's imminent need for the fight, with each passing fight he looks worse than his previous, the very real prospect of him losing against a live opponent must be a frightening prospect to him after his horror displays and serious lack of boxing fundamentals in highlighted with each passing fight. Honestly I don't think we've ever seen a more protected champ in the history of the division.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
          No one is saying Wilder is the best heavyweight ever. None of his true fans think so. However, Wilder is good at what he does and has God-given weapons and advantages that will make it hard to beat him in any era. You cannot buy height, reach, agility, speed and power in any store. You either have them. If Wilder did not have even 1 of the above items I mentioned, he will be having more issues. These tools are why we see him beating AJ.

          However, Wilder has been given these things - in an unorthodox and sometimes clumsy way, he is able to use them to his advantage in the boxing ring, but many delusional folks like you want to diminish that. His results speak for himself. Knocking out 240+ lbs folks is not easy but you will always continue to diminish that, talking crap.
          I'm not talking crap. He has no decent measuring stick. He has barely fought a C level opponent no matter how big they are. He's been a pro nearly a decade and his technique is awful. He has punching power, but he's not stepped up and his lack of skill would likely be exposed.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
            Statistcally Wlad's prime was after he hooked up with Steward, take his punch output and general work rate 2009-2011, it's not an opinion it's a fact. I'm sure if you listen to AJ fan boys they'll tell you Klitschko's prime was against AJ, you've only to look at the comment blogged on my wall by Plunger to realise the depth of ******ity of the casual fan base of AJ, fortunately their is some distance between myself and that fan base. Not a brush I'd like to be tainted with.

            When he fought Wach, Thompson, Pianeta and Pulev he struggled right ?

            I just love it when guys who know fück all about Klitschko come in and think they can discuss his career having seen three fights of his, Haye Fury and Joshua. Laughable, Wlad struggled alright when he fought Fury he was in a clear state of decline, notably his punch output against Jennings had and was waning, against Fury even more so and against Joshua 18 months on from his last fight having notably struggled the past two years 18 months of that being inactivity.

            You make me laugh.
            What you stated about his prime is an opinion. There is no clear way to tell exactly when a person's prime starts and finishes. We can only guess and try to be close to it. So, calling that a fact is laughable. I am not labeling you as an AJ fan or not. Neither do I care honestly.

            By the date range you stated, his prime was between the ages of 33 and 35. Not sure how may will agree with that as his prime. Maybe it was, maybe not.

            All I am saying is this: anybody can be beaten even in their prime. You can meet someone who was better than you on that day and has your timing down. I expect Wilder and AJ to lose one day and would be surprised if they don't.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
              I'm not talking crap. He has no decent measuring stick. He has barely fought a C level opponent no matter how big they are. He's been a pro nearly a decade and his technique is awful. He has punching power, but he's not stepped up and his lack of skill would likely be exposed.
              You just reiterated the crap again. Wilder has a good jab and throws with a good technique. He is also doing the same NOW with his left hook, but you will see what you want to see. I won't bother about Wilder's right hand because many of you who don't fight will say he has the wrong technique either way, even though he doesn't and there are many ways to throw the right hand.

              Further, Wilder has not fought only C-level fighters unless everyone other than AJ, Wilder and Fury are C-levels. If everyone in that space is C-level, then I agree with you.

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              • #57
                bye bye bum squad!

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
                  What you stated about his prime is an opinion. There is no clear way to tell exactly when a person's prime starts and finishes. We can only guess and try to be close to it. So, calling that a fact is laughable. I am not labeling you as an AJ fan or not. Neither do I care honestly.

                  By the date range you stated, his prime was between the ages of 33 and 35. Not sure how may will agree with that as his prime. Maybe it was, maybe not.

                  All I am saying is this: anybody can be beaten even in their prime. You can meet someone who was better than you on that day and has your timing down. I expect Wilder and AJ to lose one day and would be surprised if they don't.
                  It's widely acknowledged Floyd was prime at 35, id accept that with Klitschko too. 33-35.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
                    It's widely acknowledged Floyd was prime at 35, id accept that with Klitschko too. 33-35.
                    Not sure many will agree with you on that. But, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
                      You just reiterated the crap again. Wilder has a good jab and throws with a good technique. He is also doing the same NOW with his left hook, but you will see what you want to see. I won't bother about Wilder's right hand because many of you who don't fight will say he has the wrong technique either way, even though he doesn't and there are many ways to throw the right hand.

                      Further, Wilder has not fought only C-level fighters unless everyone other than AJ, Wilder and Fury are C-levels. If everyone in that space is C-level, then I agree with you.
                      Got it. Wilder is a superb technician who throws beautiful conceived punches only.

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