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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #101
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    what views did Aj get vs takam on showtime?
    More than Wilder got in the UK.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Of course his team can’t make offers, that’s the reason he is the B-side. And the more reason him having to conform to others. You cannot be in the position that wilder is now and then demand a fight, the American media and networks really need to get behind Wilder and make him bigger than he is now.
      Trying explaining to his fan base he's not a draw and doesn't command $7m for a Whyte fight or a 50/50 split with Joshua. I understand he's anchoring for a better deal and maybe Whyte would fight in an awkward manner as to make the AJ Wilder fight less appealing, hell it worked for Hearn throwing Scott in front of Ortiz, I didn't even factor that into my thoughts.

      Originally posted by Ray*
      That fight would NOT go to the cards.
      If you're suggesting Whyte stops Wilder I can't see that personally, having seen Whyte fight against Cisora and AJ, I'd be willing to stake money Wlder goes through Whyte in 3-4 rounds, if that.

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      • bigjavi973
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        #103
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        More than Wilder got in the UK.
        so no numbers? aahhh ok carry on.....

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        • SUBZER0ED
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          #104
          Originally posted by ScottWeiland
          Whyte is a can, absolute garbage. Their is absolutely zero chance he beats him. All I can think is Wilder is concerned he'd be stiffed on the cards in the UK should he not stop him, judging by Wilder's stoppages as he's raised his opposition level his power has become somewhat diminished and his talent has been exposed considerably along the way.

          I do understand slight reservations but damn have some faith in yourself.
          Wait a minute, you led off saying Whyte is a can and absolute garbage. Later you refer to him as a higher opposition level fighter for Wilder.

          If Wilder can walk through Whyte and make some money too, why wouldn't he? If he does it as well as or better than Joshua, it plays up the fight. He can say, "Look, I beat the same guy you beat, only worse! Let's do this and see who's top dog!"

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            #105
            Originally posted by rudy
            These guys are like girls fooled by money men, they think the promoters are gods, There is no reason for them not to fight next no mandatories, give the people what they want
            Agree with this. They think they're being business savvy by trying to act like wannabe promoters, but the real promoters are out there screwing fans.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Ray*
              Who gave who hell? Neither Breazeale or Whyte gave Joshua hell. Joshua was wobbled by Whyte in one round, lost every round and got stopped. Now you that you realise your “Common opponent” theory doesn’t make any sense you try to disguise your post as a neutral poster. Wilder and Breazeale is all but signed, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have signed contract. They both just fought on their card, already talked about each other’s family etc so yeah you better believe that fight is happening next. You can ask “When did that get signed” again in 3 months time.
              I am a neutral poster. I don’t have a dog in any of these fights. I love the sport not the men.....oh you jumped the gun on the deontay\dominic fight, kinda liked you jumped the gun on my comment. No worries man respect.

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                #107
                It'll be Canelo/GG all over again, but most fans will deny this because it means they're playing the hypocrite since their stance on negotiations will have flipped.

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                • Ray*
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                  I am a neutral poster. I don’t have a dog in any of these fights. I love the sport not the men.....oh you jumped the gun on the deontay\dominic fight, kinda liked you jumped the gun on my comment. No worries man respect.
                  If the fight doesn’t happen next then I jump the gun. But like you said respect, am not here to fight poster but to discuss boxing evenly. When i see posts that am curious about then I would ask questions.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by ScottWeiland
                    Trying explaining to his fan base he's not a draw and doesn't command $7m for a Whyte fight or a 50/50 split with Joshua. I understand he's anchoring for a better deal and maybe Whyte would fight in an awkward manner as to make the AJ Wilder fight less appealing, hell it worked for Hearn throwing Scott in front of Ortiz, I didn't even factor that into my thoughts.



                    If you're suggesting Whyte stops Wilder I can't see that personally, having seen Whyte fight against Cisora and AJ, I'd be willing to stake money Wlder goes through Whyte in 3-4 rounds, if that.
                    No fucking way Whyte stops wilder lol. I meant Wilder would not let that fight go to the cards, and yeah as much as I want Joshua/Wilder to happen next I just can’t see it happening. That fight is one or two fights away.... and it’s something that both sides are happy with. All these posters just and crying about “Don’t you want to see the fight happening” etc are just emotional bandwagon jumpers IMHO.

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                    • Lopez_Boxing
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      If the fight doesn’t happen next then I jump the gun. But like you said respect, am not here to fight poster but to discuss boxing evenly. When i see posts that am curious about then I would ask questions.
                      THats what I love about the site to talk boxing with knowledge fans. Feel free to get a convo going with me anytime.

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