Who Is Really The A-Side: Wilder or AJ?

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  • 285Kid
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    #21
    Fight should be in the UK because the big arena makes the even look good on tv so that AJ..


    AJ vs Wilders , Fall 2018 or Spring 2019 in the UK...

    keep the fanboys war going for a full year

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    • sicko
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      #22
      Originally posted by Jc8804
      $$$$$$ wilder is bringing pennies to a euros game .

      How does mayweather say it = dollars make sense

      How does mayweather do it= marinate it
      Just like Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale and 70K People paid to watch him fight Pulev originally RIGHT?

      Superstars get to a point in which they can fight ANYBODY and people will watch and order their fight regardless. Tyson, Oscar, Mayweather and now AJ who has a COUNTRY Behind Him!

      So AJ can make money with Inferior Opponents but Not Wilder?

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      • sicko
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        #23
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Do you honestly think AJ moving to HBO would be to avoid Wilder? That's some funny shizz.

        Anyone actually believing AJ believes anything other than he'd flatten Wilder are out of their minds.
        If he does...ABSOLUTELY because it is no reason to jump to HBO right now because they have nothing going with the Heavyweight Division! Yes I do favor AJ over Wilder Slightly but that is a duck and a way out if he makes the jump when Showtime invested in him early and everything is in place with Showtime for some MEGA FIGHTS!

        Now of course he haven't made the move yet and Eddie expressed that they're very happy with their Showtime Situation but YES again if he JUMPS to HBO which has nothing going on in the Heavyweight Division it is a ***ING RUN TO SAFETY and a Easier Path!

        Fans don't like to be fair, I'm have no horse in this race, I'm probably more of a AJ fan than Wilder Fan, but I respect both, I just want the fight I could give a *** who wins but I have to call it like I see it because if it was any other fighter people would call that fighter a duck for switching network just like Adonis Stevenson did running away from the action on HBO for a Deal with Al Haymon and a much easier path in fighting inferior opponents while being overpaid
        Last edited by sicko; 11-05-2017, 12:54 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Wilder gets under 1 mil viewers that don't pay a penny. Joshua get's 1 mill ppv sales.

          Wilder the A-side though.

          These past few days have shown me that the stereotype about Americans being thick cunts is very true.
          Hey, hey watch your mou...
          Hold on. I am Jamaican. So continue on.

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          • RussB23
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            #25
            Still AJ. He pulls in bigger crowds and makes more money.

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              #26
              AJ is a better fighter. Deontay is a cool guy who fights cans.

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              • LacedUp
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                #27
                Originally posted by sicko
                If he does...ABSOLUTELY because it is no reason to jump to HBO right now because they have nothing going with the Heavyweight Division! Yes I do favor AJ over Wilder Slightly but that is a duck and a way out if he makes the jump when Showtime invested in him early and everything is in place with Showtime for some MEGA FIGHTS!

                Now of course he haven't made the move yet and Eddie expressed that they're very happy with their Showtime Situation but YES again if he JUMPS to HBO which has nothing going on in the Heavyweight Division it is a ***ING RUN TO SAFETY and a Easier Path!

                Fans don't like to be fair, I'm have no horse in this race, I'm probably more of a AJ fan than Wilder Fan, but I respect both, I just want the fight I could give a *** who wins but I have to call it like I see it because if it was any other fighter people would call that fighter a dunk for switching network just like Adonis Stevenson did running away from the action on HBO for a Deal with Al Haymon and a much easier path if fighting inferior opponents while being overpaid
                dude... just lol-

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                • koolkc107
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                  #28
                  Most of you are kinda avoiding the question raised by the video.

                  Because if it is true that Vegas has deeper pockets than what AJ can do in the UK, then so much for him being a clear A-side.

                  The pendulum would swing to Wilder as the A-side for a fight in the US.

                  Hearn and AJ know this which is why they want it in the UK and I don't blame them for that.

                  But, let's stop acting like the UK is the only place a crapload of money can be made.

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #29
                    AJ can be seen as the A-side only because of what he is doing in Britain.

                    In the US, his viewership numbers are not very impressive:

                    Takam- 334,000
                    Klitschko- 659,000 (738,000 on HBO)
                    Breazeale- 289,000
                    Molina- 368,000
                    Martin- 275,000

                    By comparison, Wilder's numbers on Showtime are actually better:

                    Stiverne II- 674,000
                    Szpilka- 500,000
                    Molina- 687,000
                    Stiverne I- 1.24M

                    If this fight happens in the US, Joshua IS NOT the A-side.

                    And, if they want to maximize the gate and the PPV, the fight should be in Vegas.

                    Yes, Joshua has had 90K in Wembley and 75K in Cardiff but that doesn't mean the gate was extraordinary.

                    For example, the gate for the Klitschko fight was 8M...it isn't unrealistic to think they can do at least twice that in Vegas.

                    Bottom line, any talk of something different than a 50/50 split relies on the fight being in Britain with AJ as the A-side there.

                    But, a fight in the US makes more money and it is clear that Wilder is the bigger draw here.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by koolkc107
                      AJ can be seen as the A-side only because of what he is doing in Britain.

                      In the US, his viewership numbers are not very impressive:

                      Takam- 334,000
                      Klitschko- 659,000 (738,000 on HBO)
                      Breazeale- 289,000
                      Molina- 368,000
                      Martin- 275,000

                      By comparison, Wilder's numbers on Showtime are actually better:

                      Stiverne II- 674,000
                      Szpilka- 500,000
                      Molina- 687,000
                      Stiverne I- 1.24M

                      If this fight happens in the US, Joshua IS NOT the A-side.

                      And, if they want to maximize the gate and the PPV, the fight should be in Vegas.

                      Yes, Joshua has had 90K in Wembley and 75K in Cardiff but that doesn't mean the gate was extraordinary.

                      For example, the gate for the Klitschko fight was 8M...it isn't unrealistic to think they can do at least twice that in Vegas.

                      Bottom line, any talk of something different than a 50/50 split relies on the fight being in Britain with AJ as the A-side there.

                      But, a fight in the US makes more money and it is clear that Wilder is the bigger draw here.
                      Wilder is not even breaking a mil on regular cable and Joshua isn't a draw either. There's less interest in these two than there was for Ward and Kovalev. You're ******ed if you think this makes more money in the US.

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