Would Dave Allen, Whyte, Arreola or Joyce KO Old Stiverne In a Round or Two?

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  • FlatLine
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    Would Dave Allen, Whyte, Arreola or Joyce KO Old Stiverne In a Round or Two?

    I think most would agree that Stiverne's 2 years of inactivity and his age caught up with him, he was a shot fighter tonight, the same punching bag that 1-0 Joe Joyce toyed with in sparring a few weeks ago, but would Dave Allen, Joyce or Whyte KO him within a round or 2, or could this version of Stiverne still last a little longer against them? If Stiverne had been in with Arreola tonight, does he get stopped the same way?

    I guess the underlying question is, would the majority of mid-level heavyweights stop this version of Stiverne early tonight?
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    No ****ing way. I doubt Joshua KO him in a round.

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      Originally posted by Ray*
      No ****ing way. I doubt Joshua KO him in a round.
      Its easy to overlook but he was inactive for 2 years and almost the heaviest weight of his career. Those proved to be very significant factors in this fight imo. Combined with his age, he was far from the Stiverne that Ko'd Arreola, and he's also a very slow starter which Wilder capitalized on, as did Rossy in his last fight 2 years ago but this version of Stiverne was older, almost terminally inactive and overweight. Im also wondering if his hospitalization from dehydration after the last Wilder fight impacted his overall punch resistance which is partly why Rossy dropped him in his next fight and why he couldnt withstand Wilders punches at all this time?

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        Originally posted by FlatLine
        Its easy to overlook but he was inactive for 2 years and almost the heaviest weight of his career. Those proved to be very significant factors in this fight imo. Combined with his age, he was far from the Stiverne that Ko'd Arreola, and he's also a very slow starter which Wilder capitalized on, as did Rossy in his last fight 2 years ago but this version of Stiverne was older, almost terminally inactive and overweight. Im also wondering if his hospitalization from dehydration after the last Wilder fight impacted his overall punch resistance which is partly why Rossy dropped him in his next fight and why he couldnt withstand Wilders punches at all this time?
        I did consider some of your points but with their style difference I doubt those fighters get him out that early. Am sure they can by the 4/5th rounds for.

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          Originally posted by FlatLine
          I think most would agree that Stiverne's 2 years of inactivity and his age caught up with him, he was a shot fighter tonight, the same punching bag that 1-0 Joe Joyce toyed with in sparring a few weeks ago, but would Dave Allen, Joyce or Whyte KO him within a round or 2, or could this version of Stiverne still last a little longer against them? If Stiverne had been in with Arreola tonight, does he get stopped the same way?

          I guess the underlying question is, would the majority of mid-level heavyweights stop this version of Stiverne early tonight?
          I doubt it because most of them don't have the reach and aggression. Most guys would have to break him down gradually..., but who knows. Stiverne might be really shot at this point and he hasn't fought in 2 years, in a fight where he looked like dog ****...that was 2 years ago!

          I think Klitschko and Joshua would have destroyed Stiverne early but not sure if they would have started off that aggressive....Klistchko would have beat him up for 2 rounds with the jab and then KO'd him in brutal fashion...AJ might have walked through him in one or two rounds though. Stiverne didn't look like he was ready to offer any movement or elusiveness....That makes me think that any heavyweight with good power and willingness would've taken him out.

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            I would say no bc of the way they fight and some wouldn't K.O Stiverne ,and struggle win or lose . Joyce would stop him late and Whyte makes a competitive fight out of it .

            Stiverne just proved why a limited undersized talent cant take ANY excess amount of time off , know matter how good you talk yourself up.

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