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  • Tyistall
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    Wilder vs AJ: lets see who answers my questions

    1. AJ has 3 belts and that means he has mandatories to deal with. So why are you idiots saying that he is running when he's fighting a mandatory?

    2. Stiverne came in fat, he hasn't fought in years and he lost his last two fights. Do you guys really think that tonight proved something?

    3. If Hearn says that AJ will fight Wilder next year, again, why do you idiots keep saying that he is ducking?

    4. Name one top ten guy on Wilder's record. Hell, name a guy in the top20 when he fought him.

    5. If Wilder vs Joshua sells out Wembley, why do you idiots keep saying that the fight needs to happen in Vegas?

    6. Parker has a belt too, why isn't Wilder saying that Parker is ducking him?

    7. Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Wilder will not fight Whyte, Parker, Pulev, Miller and he never called out or tried to fight Klitschko either?

    8. Honestly, how do you think Joshua would have done against Arreola, Washington or Stiverne?

    9. Conversely, how would Wilder do against Klitschko, Takam and Breazeale. All 3 would be his toughest opponents thus far.

    10. If AJ fights and beats Parker, then he will have 4 belts. If he then offers the fights to Wilder at a ratio of say 75/25, do you idiots still think that Wilder deserves a 50/50 split? Even with one belt to 4 and Wilder's inability to fill up a basketball gym?

    I am sure that most people who respond on here will just call me a hater or say ****** stuff, but let's see if there are any intelligent fight fans out there who can debate like men.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Tyistall
    1. AJ has 3 belts and that means he has mandatories to deal with. So why are you idiots saying that he is running when he's fighting a mandatory?

    2. Stiverne came in fat, he hasn't fought in years and he lost his last two fights. Do you guys really think that tonight proved something?

    3. If Hearn says that AJ will fight Wilder next year, again, why do you idiots keep saying that he is ducking?

    4. Name one top ten guy on Wilder's record. Hell, name a guy in the top20 when he fought him.

    5. If Wilder vs Joshua sells out Wembley, why do you idiots keep saying that the fight needs to happen in Vegas?

    6. Parker has a belt too, why isn't Wilder saying that Parker is ducking him?

    7. Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Wilder will not fight Whyte, Parker, Pulev, Miller and he never called out or tried to fight Klitschko either?

    8. Honestly, how do you think Joshua would have done against Arreola, Washington or Stiverne?

    9. Conversely, how would Wilder do against Klitschko, Takam and Breazeale. All 3 would be his toughest opponents thus far.

    10. If AJ fights and beats Parker, then he will have 4 belts. If he then offers the fights to Wilder at a ratio of say 75/25, do you idiots still think that Wilder deserves a 50/50 split? Even with one belt to 4 and Wilder's inability to fill up a basketball gym?

    I am sure that most people who respond on here will just call me a hater or say ****** stuff, but let's see if there are any intelligent fight fans out there who can debate like men.
    joshua knocks out arreola late after being dropped early in the fight

    joshua wins a debated split decision to washington

    the prime stirverne that wilder fought takes a close decision or late knockout over joshua

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    • Earl-Hickey
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        #4
        Originally posted by Tyistall
        AJ has 3 belts and that means he has mandatories to deal with. So why are you idiots saying that he is running when he's fighting a mandatory?
        Only two of AJ's belts are recognized. The IBO is not a world title, doesn't have mandatories and is absolutely worthless. The only purpose it serves is to trick people like you into thinking AJ has three world titles.

        Of his two world titles, he just fought one of his mandatories last week and his other mandatory was just removed for a doping violation. So AJ has no mandatories left. If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't have claimed AJ was busy with mandatories when the fact is that he doesn't have any mandatories.


        Stiverne came in fat, he hasn't fought in years and he lost his last two fights. Do you guys really think that tonight proved something?
        Stiverne hasn't lost his last two fights. It's actually Klitschko that has lost his last two fights. If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't be lying about basic facts.

        Stiverne had only been stopped once, over a decade ago. He was champion of the world less than three years ago. Deontay absolutely destroyed him. Deontay proved he is the most dangerous puncher on the planet. Does that mean he'd beat AJ? No. But if you thought knocking Stiverne out in the first round was so easy, you would have bet on the first round knock out and made a lot of money.


        If Hearn says that AJ will fight Wilder next year, again, why do you idiots keep saying that he is ducking?
        Hearn wants to delay the fight because the smart business move is to delay the fight. We're simply calling a spade a spade that it's AJ's side pushing things back while Wilder's side wants the fight immediately. Whether that's a duck or not is up to you. We don't view it as a duck. We view it as smart business.


        Name one top ten guy on Wilder's record. Hell, name a guy in the top20 when he fought him.
        Stiverne was #3 in the world when Wilder beat him for the title. AJ's best win is #6. If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't have insinuated that Wilder had never faced a top ranked fighter when it's actually AJ that has never faced a top ranked fighter.


        If Wilder vs Joshua sells out Wembley, why do you idiots keep saying that the fight needs to happen in Vegas?
        Because you can charge higher ticket prices in Vegas and you can also put the fight on PPV in the US. The fight would generate more money in the US. If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't be resorting to name calling. You'd be analyzing the facts like a gentleman. The fact is that selling the most tickets isn't the same as generating the most money. AJ is surely the A-side, but AJ vs Wilder still generates more dollars in Vegas than it does in London.


        Parker has a belt too, why isn't Wilder saying that Parker is ducking him?
        Because Parker already ducked him and Wilder knows he can't get him. Whereas AJ does intend to face Wilder and Wilder is simply trying to speed up the process.


        Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Wilder will not fight Whyte, Parker, Pulev, Miller and he never called out or tried to fight Klitschko either?
        If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't keep posting blatant lies. Wilder tried desperately to get Parker in the ring this July. However, Bob Arum would not allow the fight as the Top Rank/ESPN contract hadn't been signed yet and Arum isn't willing to risk his only piece of the heavyweight title.

        Wilder called Klitschko out publicly in a lengthy Forbes article in late 2015, hoping to set up a 2016 fight. Wilder has flown to Klitsckho fights hoping to call him out, only for Klitschko to end up losing. You're simply posting false information. Repeatedly. That is not how a man debates.


        If AJ fights and beats Parker, then he will have 4 belts. If he then offers the fights to Wilder at a ratio of say 75/25, do you idiots still think that Wilder deserves a 50/50 split? Even with one belt to 4 and Wilder's inability to fill up a basketball gym?
        You're allowing yourself to be tricked by the IBO again. It's not a recognized title.

        If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't continue to hurl insults. You would discuss things civilly. Nobody reasonable is saying Wilder deserves a 50/50 split. AJ is the A-side. Wilder will have to take a small share just like Lewis did when he faced Holyfield.

        But it won't be 25%. Wilder has the most important title. He'll get at least a third of the purse, just like Lewis did.


        I am sure that most people who respond on here will just call me a hater or say ****** stuff, but let's see if there are any intelligent fight fans out there who can debate like men.
        We're here to debate like men, but you've already shown that was never your true intention.

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        • Ray*
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          Joshua and Wilder can happen over any mandatory. Am sure the respective organisations would sanction a unification over a mandatory. Having said that Team Joshua have made it clear that they would rather do the fight later. They are the A-side and they have made their stance clear. Call it ducking, call it whatever but we know the fight isn’t happen next.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Ray*
            Joshua and Wilder can happen over any mandatory. Am sure the respective organisations would sanction a unification over a mandatory. Having said that Team Joshua have made it clear that they would rather do the fight later. They are the A-side and they have made their stance clear. Call it ducking, call it whatever but we know the fight isn’t happen next.
            Don't let this troll fool you. There are no mandatories. The WBC & IBF mandatories just got cleared in the last 8 days. The WBA mandatory just got suspended for a year. The IBO isn't a real world title and doesn't even do mandatories.

            Neither fighter has any mandatories right now. All of the organizations would allow an immediate unification no questions asked.

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              Don't tell me you are going back to pretending to be Tyrone Biggums.

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              • Bobby Deez
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                Hear that? That's the sound of British balls retracting.

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                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF


                  Stiverne had only been stopped once, over a decade ago. He was champion of the world less than three years ago. Deontay absolutely destroyed him. Deontay proved he is the most dangerous puncher on the planet. Does that mean he'd beat AJ? No. But if you thought knocking Stiverne out in the first round was so easy, you would have bet on the first round knock out and made a lot of money.







                  Stiverne was #3 in the world when Wilder beat him for the title. AJ's best win is #6. If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't have insinuated that Wilder had never faced a top ranked fighter when it's actually AJ that has never faced a top ranked fighter.




                  Because you can charge higher ticket prices in Vegas and you can also put the fight on PPV in the US. The fight would generate more money in the US. If you really intended to debate like a man, you wouldn't be resorting to name calling. You'd be analyzing the facts like a gentleman. The fact is that selling the most tickets isn't the same as generating the most money. AJ is surely the A-side, but AJ vs Wilder still generates more dollars in Vegas than it does in London.




                  But it won't be 25%. Wilder has the most important title. He'll get at least a third of the purse, just like Lewis did.




                  We're here to debate like men, but you've already shown that was never your true intention.
                  wilder proved he's the most explosive puncher on the planet by never knocking out a top 10 opponent? do you know what proof is? thats your opinion. the opposite of proof. maybr you just think knocking over bums is something great?

                  still using those trusty transnational rankings i see. even after i destroyed you for cherry picking in order to satisfy your confirmation bias. no shame. do we have to post the ring rankigns again to show joshua beat klitschko who was #1 to make you look silly?

                  joshua vs wilder in vegas makes more money...heres mr facts simply making things up once again. debate like a man would you. dont justuse your opinion and emotions. show us the breakdown how its more money without making up numbers. go get joshuas ticket prices and attendance. then go get wilders. go get joshuas ppv numbers then go get wilders. you will see its not more money at all. what you are doing is called speculation. promoters usually dont operate on speculation sorry. they use hard facts. they want to make money. they arent fanboys like you claiming something with zero evidence.

                  wilder has the most important title...you keep saying this. you talk about facts then give a complete opinion. having the wbc is going to get him more money than if he had the wba, ibf etc??? never heard of that. you just made that up mr facts. why?

                  you also made up he will get a third of the purse. why do you pull numbers out of your ass? go look at how much joshua makes. then go look at how much wilder makes. for example joshua just banked 13 million to wilders 1.4 million. nowhere near 35 percent. but lets factor in wilders live gate, his ppv numbers and everything against joshuas to make sure we get the correct number.i doubt its 35 percent...but i leave that up to you....im sure you will crunch the numbers like you always do. you are so diligent at that....oh wait you just make up things nonstop same thign.

                  no we arent here to debate liek men. where did you get that from? we are here to make things up and pretend its a fact or proof, scour the internet for rankings that have what we want them to say, make up numbes out of our ass without making any comparisons of revenue(that would hurt our case), etc...
                  Last edited by daggum; 11-05-2017, 03:40 AM.

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                  • Tyistall
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                    Yep, lie I thought, if I did get answers, they would be distorted answers hahaha. Fact is, Wilder beat an old, fat lazy boxer tonight who had no business in the ring. Also Wilder has never faced a top challenger except the same fat guy he fought today, two years ago. Miller, Haye, Pulev, Whyte, there are a number of guys who Wilder hasn't fought. Again, does that mean he's ducking them too? And when will you idiots get that AJ said he will fight Wilder in 2018? That doesn't mean he's ducking, it means he's lining his ducks in a row. And knocking them down one by one.
                    Last edited by Tyistall; 11-05-2017, 08:17 AM.

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