How many hof has wilder defeated

[Elroy The Great]

does beating a post prime hofer count to a boxers bid for greatness ?

[DuckAdonis]

Has Wilder ever fought a real Top 10 fighter and I'm not talking about the two Water Buffalos Stiverne or Arreola

You answered your own question and then you took credit away from those wins. A bit dumb isnt it ?

[Mr Objecitivity]

The question isn't how many Hall Of Fame boxers Wilder has defeated, since that is totally subjective and isn't based on any objective criteria. The question is, how many top ranked opponents has Wilder beaten in the heavyweight division compared to other top 10 ranked boxers in terms of how many top ranked they also defeated? Already, the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker and Dillian Whyte with fewer fights have defeated more higher ranked opposition than Deontay Wilder. Also, their best opponents that they defeated are officially better in terms of their record than the best opponent (Bermane Stiverne) that Wilder has defeated.

Top opponents are simply boxers with undefeated records, Un-KO'ed records and those who themselves have also defeated other top boxers that were previously either undefeated, Un-KO'ed or who defeated other top ranked opponents.

Anthony Joshua beating Dillian Whyte is a win for Anthony Joshua against somebody who has a better record than any of Deontay Wilder's opponents since Dillian Whyte himself has beaten opponents that have better records than the records of opponents which Deontay Wilder's opponents have beaten.
These are facts!

It's a shame that we have boxers like Deontay Wilder in the modern era who are allowed to fight such inferior level of opposition when they have been the champion for as long as they have. It's one thing for someone who isn't a champion fighting and beating bums if they acknowledge that they themselves aren't a top level boxer and if they are ranked appropriately, according to the level of opposition they have beaten. However, it's a total different thing when we have a champion who is ranked as 'one of the best heavyweights' today to be allowed to fight such inferior level of opposition instead of fighting opponents that are proven to be the best by their records.

[daggum]

hes had 6 title defenses and all of them were unranked opponents. the only ranked opponent was stirverne but if we actually delve a little into his record...

his claim to fame is beating arreola who never beat a top 10 figher himself. stirverne was unranked until he beat arreola who was ranked #9. after beating the #9 figher he jumped to #3. not sure how that works...then he beat arreola again and moved up to #2! makign progress! if he had beat arreola a couple more times maybe he gets to #1!

basically it comes down to how good you think arreola is as a fighter. does beating him really make you a top fighter....i say no.

[N/A]

Oh wait

Maybe the thread title should be how many Uber drivers has wilder defeated

Hahahaha good one!

When was the last time you got laid? Be honest.

[black.ink]

A bit of an unnecessary question to be honest. How many HOF fighter are around to fight at HW, and at what point in a HOF fighters career is a win over them not credited as being great (past-prime)?

Only Wlad was a HOF HW in the past 3 years, and it's debatable how GREAT he was over 40 years of age coming off a long lay-off.

I'd prefer rating how good a fighter is with how many wins they have over top 10 fighters in their division, and how prime the opponent was.

In Wilders case, he was scheduled to fight Povetkin twice, which through no fault of his were called off. Politics is always going to get in the way of the best fight's coming off, but lets judge a mans career once they are retired and not when they are still active.

[Luilun]

You answered your own question and then you took credit away from those wins. A bit dumb isnt it ?

Arreola was a fake rating , Stiverne was basically handed the belt by fighting someone who was Crap . Stiverne struggled with an unknown do you really think they are top caliber fighters ?

[sugar ray lenrd]

Boilidog,
Great Post! Thanks, now there's no need for me to respond....

[Larry the boss]

The question isn't how many Hall Of Fame boxers Wilder has defeated, since that is totally subjective and isn't based on any objective criteria. The question is, how many top ranked opponents has Wilder beaten in the heavyweight division compared to other top 10 ranked boxers in terms of how many top ranked they also defeated? Already, the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker and Dillian Whyte with fewer fights have defeated more higher ranked opposition than Deontay Wilder. Also, their best opponents that they defeated are officially better in terms of their record than the best opponent (Bermane Stiverne) that Wilder has defeated.

Top opponents are simply boxers with undefeated records, Un-KO'ed records and those who themselves have also defeated other top boxers that were previously either undefeated, Un-KO'ed or who defeated other top ranked opponents.

Anthony Joshua beating Dillian Whyte is a win for Anthony Joshua against somebody who has a better record than any of Deontay Wilder's opponents since Dillian Whyte himself has beaten opponents that have better records than the records of opponents which Deontay Wilder's opponents have beaten.
These are facts!

It's a shame that we have boxers like Deontay Wilder in the modern era who are allowed to fight such inferior level of opposition when they have been the champion for as long as they have. It's one thing for someone who isn't a champion fighting and beating bums if they acknowledge that they themselves aren't a top level boxer and if they are ranked appropriately, according to the level of opposition they have beaten. However, it's a total different thing when we have a champion who is ranked as 'one of the best heavyweights' today to be allowed to fight such inferior level of opposition instead of fighting opponents that are proven to be the best by their records.

well he wants Joshua ASAP..whats the problem?

[Reverb]

Wilder would pull a bigger crowd in the UK than he can on home soil.
AJ makes more per fight, does bigger numbers in every respect. Professional boxing is a business, and Wilder is the financial b-side, regardless of who may be better on the night.
They will eventually meet because they make the most money with each other.