How many professional boxers do you think dope

[Ray*]

I think most of them did, i think the numbers are probably going down nowadays due to the awareness of random testing during training camp and after fights. Hopefully we get down to the yearly stuff soon.

[kilojay505]

126 pros
487 amatuers

[Alx.]

everybody is on steroids

- Nate Diaz

[elfag]

Most.

I cant believe PEDs are still so misunderstood when there are tons of documentaries ect out there any sports fan can watch. People can be really niave because they want to believe their hero doesnt "cheat". Biggest misconceptions IMO:

1. you can tell someone roids by body type - guys like James Toney and Fernando vargas were busted. Peds arent just for ripped guys and peds arent just steroids. Was lance armstrong a giant meathead?

2. thinking Peds are only steroids - there is all kinds of chit now days, EPO, growth hormone, insulin ect. Whatever your sport, there are shady doctors that will come up with an optimum brew to make them excel and its not just muscle mass, its stamina, recovery time in training ect

3. xyz never tested positive - neither did shane mosley or lance armstrong. Base level testing (before/after fights) is worthless in boxing. Random olympic style testing has its limits. Organizations like wada dont run the labs, they only have inspectors. Theres a 2017 documentary on netflix now, the entire olympic russian team had a free for all to use whatever they wanted because they had people at the labs swap out their urine samples at night right under the noses of wada/vada. You think the russians are the only ones doing this? they were the only ones that got caught.


There has definitely been a shift in the last 10-15 or so years in boxers longevity. Late 30s - early 40s boxers are dominating the younger guys. In the 80s and 90s you used to be shot by 35. Its not just one or two 40 year old fighters, which could be explained by lucky genetics, its a lot of them, the over all bar for longevity has been set back by 5-10 years and its not from better protein powder.

[PsychoPat]

Your mom is a fat slut

Must admit I enjoy you're posts they're hilarious, however you strike me as a definite transgender being who furiously **********s to that rocky 4 Robert tepper no easy way out song in a cold dark room. Probably at your cranky old girls house.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Doesn't matter, people pick and choose who they like as a cheater or not. Look how people, especially on here were vocal with Povetkin but as soon as guys like Toney, Jones, Mosley, and others are mentioned, crickets.

[Lou Cipher]

you're mom bro!

I am Dad, bro.

[PsychoPat]

I am Dad, bro.

We're related, I'm ya grandpa bro.
Don't you remember me taking you hunting as a child? I was shooting pheasants and you were hunting for crickets and locusts etc. You didn't like the shooter the noise of it was to much for you and you're mother I shared my earplugs with her and said don't worry girl I'll plug that leaky backdoor for you in a jiffy

[Lou Cipher]

We're related, I'm ya grandpa bro.
Don't you remember me taking you hunting as a child? I was shooting pheasants and you were hunting for crickets and locusts etc. You didn't like the shooter the noise of it was to much for you and you're mother I shared my earplugs with her and said don't worry girl I'll plug that leaky backdoor for you in a jiffy

Lou Cipher does not have time for nonsense.

[New England]

if you're talking about championship level fighters' i'd say "most".