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  • thack
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Americans don't know heavyweight boxing anymore, the boxing fan has to be well over 30 most likely to have really watched a lot of heavyweight boxing. For the last two decades until recently heavyweight boxing has not really been on that much, Wilder is the most viewed heavy in America by a long shot.

    That is why Wilder is not bigger people compare him against smaller skillful guys when heavy is a totally different beast that really requires operating in a different way because even the most skillful fights get hit and one shot at heavy can be the end. He just needs his shining moment which will never come against Stiverne, he needs the big fight to go to the next level bd Joshua needs Wilder for that also~
    I agree AJ. needs Wilder but he really must look spectacular on Saturday to really whet the appetite.Hearn just wants to plod along like the business man he is and keep his investment safe.They are unbeaten now and now is the time.

    Sorry, I was talking of the Americans having by far the most to talk about with their unmatched history in the division.

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    • RussB23
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      #32
      Wilder thinks hes more feared than mike tyson

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      • thack
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        #33
        Originally posted by 1hourRun
        If those 90,000 thousand in attendance would determine the purses and PPV numbers you would have a valid point but go and look at a map and compare the size of the UK and its population and compare that to just the state of California -- that just one state in our tremendous union ; these are the number Wilder brings to the table, lets face it Joshua is a big fish in a small pond, Deontay is a whale in the ocean.
        You need to narrow your horizons chief as they are confusing you .How much did Wilder earn for his last fight? .How is Wilder earning for this fight? A.J. earned $20m for his previous fight and $15m for his last fight .It sounds like you needed a geography lesson , well there you go .You little whale you.

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        • 1hourRun
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          #34
          Originally posted by thack
          You need to narrow your horizons chief as they are confusing you .How much did Wilder earn for his last fight? .How is Wilder earning for this fight? A.J. earned $20m for his previous fight and $15m for his last fight .It sounds like you needed a geography lesson , well there you go .You little whale you.
          What A.J earned in ANY fight is irrelevant to what this fight generates! thats how this works, as an example that loser Triple-Duck made out pretty well in negotiations with the REAL 'Cash-Cow' of the sport ( Canelo) despite selling a mere 97K PPV and hes no American with THE heavyweight title that matters.

          Let me add some perspective for you UK fans out there that never traveled out side of your little country what Deontay brings to the table : I'm sure that if you graduated high-school you can figure where the UK is in this map.



          When A.J fights THE heavyweight champion of the world its going to be PPV numbers that count -- a stadium can only fit so many people but PPV numbers far exceed Joshuas 75-90K live audience : as I just mentioned GGG got 97K....but Joshua you say sold 90K tickets? hmmm...what do mega PPV's generate? about a million PPV buys at 90$ in the AMERICAN market? OK then...but go on fanboy believe what you want, but A.J is the 'B' side.
          Last edited by 1hourRun; 11-01-2017, 12:18 PM.

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #35
            Originally posted by thack
            I agree AJ. needs Wilder but he really must look spectacular on Saturday to really whet the appetite.Hearn just wants to plod along like the business man he is and keep his investment safe.They are unbeaten now and now is the time.

            Sorry, I was talking of the Americans having by far the most to talk about with their unmatched history in the division.

            I don't think Joshua-Wilder is next no matter what it makes sense to let it play out this fight is getting talked about huge so the momentum is working for them (everyone involved) and since that is pretty clearly the big fight at heavy they want that to be extra big.

            Obviously, Wilder looking like a world beater helps his case because winning impressively in boxing is generally better than actually fighting someone good because people can tell impressive fairly easy but how many can really tell or know if the guy across is any good (and then take into account how good the other guy is, so you can truly gauge the performance)?

            We do have an unmatched heavy history but sadly boxing is very much what have you done for me lately. Sure fans go back and watch old heavyweight fights but how many really take the time to breakdown why an old fight went the way it did. I have been arguing with people in the US about Wilder (mainly about why this tall athletic but obviously very rough and raw guy was any kind of boxing prospect) his whole career the feeling I always got is a lot of people didn't really understand heavyweight boxing anymore here.

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            • thack
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              #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              What A.J earned in ANY fight is irrelevant to what this fight generates! thats how this works, as an example that loser Triple-Duck made out pretty well in negotiations with the REAL 'Cash-Cow' of the sport ( Canelo) despite selling a mere 97K PPV and hes no American with THE heavyweight title that matters.

              Let me add some perspective for you UK fans out there that never traveled out side of your little country what Deontay brings to the table : I'm sure that if you graduated high-school you can figure where the UK is in this map.



              When A.J fights THE heavy champion of the world its going to be PPV numbers that count -- a stadium can only fit so many people but PPV numbers far exceed Joshuas 75-90K live audience : as I just mentioned GGG got 97K....but Joshua you say sold 90K tickets? hmmm...what do mega PPV's generate? about a million PPV buys at 90$ in the AMERICAN market? OK then...but go on fanboy believe what you want, but A.J is the 'B' side.
              Lol......You lunatic. You will find it is indeed the Americans who don't travel 64% in fact.
              The truth is your unworldly outlook out look surfaces blatantly.Both A.J. and flipside couldn't give a *** how well or how many people see the fight .They bottom line is what matters to them .......the dunn's eye , the money .Now get your self a passport and bring flipside with you to where the moneys being made.

              Your map of the uk is obviously the money state of boxing.

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              • kushking
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                #37
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                If Joshua never fought Wilder it wouldn't even put a dent in his already 20 fight stellar 20 K.O career . On the other hand you have Wilder who hasnt fought one top ten challenger and are filled with piss poor fighters compared to Joshua resume overall at the end.

                So who do you REALLY think will be ahead if Wilder ends his career with 2 wins over Stiverne and who do you REALLY think needs to still prove himself and is LESS known world wide ?
                Why am I not surprised that juggalogimp666 is once again making an ass outta yourself like when u claimed Ross Purrity didn't deserve his legit ko over undefeated Klit & that his win was way more spectacular than AJ beating a washed up 2 yr layoff Klitschko that was also coming off a loss. Purrity made his trainer wave the white flag to avoid permanently damaging Klitschko from the force of Purritys hammer.

                You also claimed that im lying when I say that Klit never avenged Purrity almost brain damaging him, because he didn't want no parts of him after that & instead had his big brother beat him up several fights later.

                Aj is a great fighter but its when clowns try to increase his stock with lies.

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                • A.K
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                  #38
                  Honestly if you put up Parker vs Charles Martin, martin would look like a phenom . This guy Parker is by far the worst champion in boxing right now.

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                  • SweetPbfAli
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sickmerch1990
                    Fury quit the sport so heavyweight joke was up for grabs wilders grabbed it with both arms hes crazy thinks he sonny liston or iron mike hes beat up bums worse padded record in boxing only his bum squad by into this hype job he be fighting holyfeild next
                    This was really hard to read.

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                      #40
                      Exactly right its a sign of fear no matter what.

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