Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Canelo-GGG Talks To Resume After Saunders-Lemieux

[Shadoww702]

For real! They always doing double standards....the hate is real.

Yup! Whats worse is if they dont fight on the day they want its a DUCK!!!

Now Canelo is ducking because he wants to fight in May like ALWAYS??? *** it! GGG has plenty of Mando's. He can take that if he doesnt want to wait...

[Shadoww702]

why don't you get off my posts already you bi polar unstable Canelo groupie? I'm the hypocrite yet you're the one who has been proven wrong over and over and over again. I am fully aware of gggs level of opponents and have never denied it, but you act as if these guys that Canelo fought would've fought ggg. Other than Lara who had called out ggg, you think Floyd, cotto or trout would've fought ggg at any point over the last 3 yrs?? You should know that a fighters popularity is what determines the ease ay which they can land fights. Nobody will decline a fight with Canelo, ggg on the other hand was considered too risky with not enough reward. As far as canelo vs ggg, anybody with common sense knows which group wanted that fight to happen and which group pushed it back until they felt it was a more winnable fight. Canelo was very fortunate to get a draw vs a version of ggg that is in his mid 30s and showing signs of slipping. What do you think would've happened 2 yrs ago?

I know Ward wanted the fight but lil prima donna turned all buisness then. Where do you think Oscar gets most of his quotes from??? You cant be that ****** can you???

A-Side, he doesnt sale tickets, he fought on BET, B-Side. This is sht They stole from team GGG ward for practically ward.

[SUBZER0ED]

At first, Canelo was saying that he didn't want any other fight before a rematch with Golovkin. Now, we hear Oscar talking about how difficult it is to negotiate a fight and how Canelo is young, has options and in no hurry. What's that I smell? I've smelled it many times before....oh yeah, it's PUSSY!!

[Shadoww702]

why don't you get off my posts already you bi polar unstable Canelo groupie? I'm the hypocrite yet you're the one who has been proven wrong over and over and over again. I am fully aware of gggs level of opponents and have never denied it, but you act as if these guys that Canelo fought would've fought ggg. Other than Lara who had called out ggg, you think Floyd, cotto or trout would've fought ggg at any point over the last 3 yrs?? You should know that a fighters popularity is what determines the ease ay which they can land fights. Nobody will decline a fight with Canelo, ggg on the other hand was considered too risky with not enough reward. As far as canelo vs ggg, anybody with common sense knows which group wanted that fight to happen and which group pushed it back until they felt it was a more winnable fight. Canelo was very fortunate to get a draw vs a version of ggg that is in his mid 30s and showing signs of slipping. What do you think would've happened 2 yrs ago?

Also rtard 2 years ago Canelo wasnt even a MW Champion... He didnt fight Cotto until 3 weeks from now two years ago you dope....

Why are you soo ok with Lil GGG not fighting Ward??? Didnt you want to see a real fight?? And why does everyone you demand move up to fight GgG but he never has to??? Thats straight BS you HYPOCRITE!

What Degale, Jack too big for lil g???

[Shadoww702]

Canelo and Brook had to move up for a fight with GGG but he never had to move up for any REAL fights in his prime and when the division was DOG SHT ran with #1 mando's...Tureno Johnson, Blanco, Gimpy Heiland, House Arrest Wade, Lemuix, Colonel Saunders..

Aint Canelo fault hes so young and started pro at 139 lbs.

[Boxing42]

Ugh the trolls on this site, more concerned with attacking Golovkin than wanting to see the best fight the best. This is an obvious rematch and there is a rematch clause so there is nothing really to negotiate.

If Canelo swerves it's a clear duck, even if it's ODH's fault and even if 2% spammers on this site make a hundred nonsense posts otherwise.

Golovkin doesn't wanna take an L so he's gonna milk his reputation for a couple of bum fights and then rematch canelo. It takes two to fight stop thinking it's only canelo that shows your bias

[rrayvez]

Also rtard 2 years ago Canelo wasnt even a MW Champion... He didnt fight Cotto until 3 weeks from now two years ago you dope....

Why are you soo ok with Lil GGG not fighting Ward??? Didnt you want to see a real fight?? And why does everyone you demand move up to fight GgG but he never has to??? Thats straight BS you HYPOCRITE!

What Degale, Jack too big for lil g???

see, this is why debating with you is pointless. You don't even know what my stance is on the ggg vs ward situation but you go and make assumptions as your argument. But don't get it twisted and act like both situations were the same. Ward was never the mandatory to ggg and ggg never called ward into a ring after his fight to say people from khasikstan don't F around and then go and fight some dude named beefy for his next fight. Then You wanna get specific about me saying 2 yrs. Want me to say 21 months and 2 weeks instead?

[rrayvez]

Okay, fair enough. I'm not even gonna argue with you on what you said cause your right on most of it.
But let me clarify a few things. Oscar fought everyone, old or young so let's not act like fighting Chavez twice was a cherry pick. He fought Trinidad, Moseley, Mayweather and Pacquiao all in their prime and the first three undefeated. He took on all comers.
As a promoter I'll admit he contradicts himself half the ****ing time! Even I get annoyed by some of the shet he says and I wish he would just keep his ****ing mouth shut! But let's face it, most of the ****ing promoters out there are ****ing snakes! As far as him postponing fights and marinating fights and dropping belts well it's all business moves. Yeah it's annoying that the fights aren't happening when the fans want them to happen but I will never hate on a man for trying to fatten up his pockets! And that goes for every man, whether I like him or not.
And no I'm not a businessman and I'm not getting any money out of it but I'm not a groupie either.
I just see things from their perspective. A man's gotta do what's best for him and do what's gonna make him the most money. Nothing wrong with that.
And of course I'm gonna back up Oscar and Canelo cause they are Mexican. I'm Mexican too and I ride with my own. Just like you're gonna ride with your own. Nothing wrong with that. I'll always ride with a Mexican/latino to the fullest.
And that goes for everything.
I see a Mexican/latino getting jumped by two whites or two blacks then **** yeah Imma jump in. I don't care if IDK them. That's who I am.

valid points. And I did acknowledge that aside from the Chavez situation, he did fight everyone. Didn't always make it easy to make the fights but he got in the ring with them and more often than not, at their best. I personally just hate seeing young prime fighters beating a past prime legend and celebrate like they beat them at their peak. Hated seeing khan do it with barrera, hated seeing those euro dudes do it with Roy Jones, etc. As far as being biased, we all do it to an extent if there is nationalistic pride involved. I've always been a cotto fan but I'll be the first to admit that the dude was the biggest diva and made ****** demands. But at the end of the day, he fought most fighters at their best (other than Sergio martinez). With Canelo, I wanted his fight with ggg to be while both were considered to be atop their games. I know ggg is slipping but he's still one of the best. Waiting another yr, letting ggg get into his late 30s, and fighting the saunders vs lemieux winner instead first, lessens the validity of really seeing who the better fighter is. Just like with Floyd vs pac. Yeah Floyd won clean when they fought but I'm sure we all wonder what would've happened if that fight had happened when pac was running through Oscar, hatton and Cotto as opposed to the version who was splattered by Marquez.

[BigStomps]

valid points. And I did acknowledge that aside from the Chavez situation, he did fight everyone. Didn't always make it easy to make the fights but he got in the ring with them and more often than not, at their best. I personally just hate seeing young prime fighters beating a past prime legend and celebrate like they beat them at their peak. Hated seeing khan do it with barrera, hated seeing those euro dudes do it with Roy Jones, etc. As far as being biased, we all do it to an extent if there is nationalistic pride involved. I've always been a cotto fan but I'll be the first to admit that the dude was the biggest diva and made ****** demands. But at the end of the day, he fought most fighters at their best (other than Sergio martinez). With Canelo, I wanted his fight with ggg to be while both were considered to be atop their games. I know ggg is slipping but he's still one of the best. Waiting another yr, letting ggg get into his late 30s, and fighting the saunders vs lemieux winner instead first, lessens the validity of really seeing who the better fighter is. Just like with Floyd vs pac. Yeah Floyd won clean when they fought but I'm sure we all wonder what would've happened if that fight had happened when pac was running through Oscar, hatton and Cotto as opposed to the version who was splattered by Marquez.

I know what you mean. But I think that it's easy for us as fans to expect and demand the fights we want when we want them. Yeah we all wanna see the best fight the best but at the same time it's easy for us to want ..... We're not the ones getting the sh-it beat out of us and taking the punishment..
So in that perspective I can understand why fighters and promoters do the moves they makes. Doesn't mean I like it or agree with it but I understand it.

[Golden Boi 360]

I honestly don't have a problem with this. Canelo fights the winner of BJS-Lemieux and GGG takes a mandatory.

If they both win then they can fight late 2018 for all the belts.