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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostA cheater is a cheater. Be it American, Russian, Ukrainian, or Mexican. I call cheaters by their name. When I see Mexican boxing cheaters being protected by Mexican cowards in suits, I will call it every single time. If that deserves a ban, then I'll take it with my head held high.
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The 2 things I took away from this:
1). "Mr. Nery did not request analysis of the corresponding 'B' sample."
Why? Did he know he would not pass?
2). "The WBC also contacted WADA to obtain additional information about Zilpaterol and WADA never responded to the WBC's inquiries."
So this was solely a WBC investigation into Nery with no participation by WADA or VADA or any anti-doping agency?
I think I agree that something smells here. It isn't fair to Nery if he is truly innocent, it's not fair to Yamanaka if Nery cheated, it's not fair to Villanueva who is going to fight him on Saturday, and not fair to us fans who waited over 2 months to find out that due diligence probably wasn't taken in investigating this matter.
By the way, is Nery still champion? Also, since Saturday's fight is a non-title bout is Luis being tested for that fight? Probably not.
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Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View PostThat's impossible.
The same national team of soccer had the same problem and they are rich as fu.ck.
Simply it's too hard knows what stup.id meat is contaminated or not.
And in those weights the fighters are not riches.
Does the possibility exist that these football players are also cheats? If this problem is widely known and they have the means, why would they risk it?
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Originally posted by Beercules View PostQuestion. If he wasn't Mexican, would you care?
He failed a test. Didn't even want his B sample tested.
That's a dirty fighter.
Read about the problem of the meats in Mexico . The national team of soccer had the same problem
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Originally posted by THC View PostIf domestic beef is known to be contaminated with these compounds, then it's the boxer's responsibility to procure a cleaner source or substitute beef in his diet with another protein.
VADA did its job. Then WBC effectively craps on any semblance of transparency by using this tainted beef excuse.
Originally posted by hinode View PostIf Morales, Vargas, Nery, all ingested Zilpaterol / Clenbuterol from Mexican beef, then there must be hundreds of Mexican boxers who would test positive for the same substances...
Originally posted by mlac View PostWhy is it only Mexicans that can get with the 'tainted meat' excuse?
Lucas Browne tried that exuse and they stripped him of his title and banned and fined him.
But a Mexican just has to fight the same guy again? probably juiced to the gills again, smh
Originally posted by Carlos Alberto View PostThese fighters don't make much money. They make ends meet, but are far from hiring nutritionists that can help them with their meals. As far as buying organic meat, I'm not so sure they can afford that, either. What is interesting, though, is that a fighter would choose to eat beef, when beef takes so long to digest. And as we all know, that would be very counterproductive to making weight. It seems to me like it would be much better for a fighter to eat lighter meats like chicken, turkey, and fish.
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Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View PostStop saying sh.i.t.
The clembuterol and zalpiterol on the meat is a big problem in Mexico.
The national team of soccer had the same problem years ago.
Nobody use clembuterol in boxing because is Stu.pid.
Nery was clean in all the 3 tests that had in Japan.
Nery always looked strong and powerful in his career.
Naturally he is a great athlete.
He thrown like 650 punches in 6 rounds vs David Sánchez.
Nery will destroy again your boy.
'' Zilpaterol & Clenbuterol are drugs that aid performance and good for weight loss.''
Granted people can injest contaminated meat, its not impossible but as a professional its your responsibility to monitor your diet and keep you body clean from such PED's.
Lastly your excuse about Nery being to poor to afford organic meat is not acceptable because in order for you to participate in the WBC VADA program you have to be rated as high as #15. by the WBC so NO : a fighter ranked as high as Nery to gain a title shot at the #1. fighter in the world is making a proper living -- in other words he was making enough money to eat well and was fighting on Mexican TV before facing Yamanaka. Bandido Vargas was also making decent purses by the time he fought Salido when he got caught. No excuses, Luis Nery is a CHEAT PERIOD.Last edited by 1hourRun; 11-01-2017, 09:45 AM.
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