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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Joshua's Coach: Parker First, Then Wilder - Both Winnable Fights

    Boxing's volatile unpredictability means Anthony Joshua is taking nothing about a lucrative and potentially defining 2018 for granted. Joshua moved to 20 stoppage wins from as many professional fights in Cardiff on Saturday, retaining his WBA, IBO and IBF heavyweight titles inside 10 rounds against the tough, brave but ultimately outgunned Carlos Takam.
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    Just like Parker manager predicted.

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    • LetOutTheCage
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      The Unification begins. People can stop crying now

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      • vitali1999
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        Yep but Parker will be a harder fight than tooth pick wilder. Joshua will reign supreme for many years to come.

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          Joshua shrugged, "I'm easy," when asked who of Parker or Wilder he would prefer to face and deflected the question towards trainer Robert McCracken.

          Chicken, your public in attendance in Cardiff told you in a roar they want Deontay Wilder to your face!

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            #6
            Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
            The Unification begins. People can stop crying now
            Is he fighting Deontay Wilder next?

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            • P4Pdunny
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              Actually think that Parker may pose for problems for AJ than Wilder would.

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              • Boxing Logic
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                Cant believe there are people who think Joshua is ducking Wilder. It was Wilder who ducked the Klitschkos for an entire decade. Joshua had less than 20 pro fights and was still willing to fight Klitschko before Wilder was, which is the biggest reason Joshua is a superstar now and Wilder isn't. Wilder could have been what Joshua is now five or more years ago, but either he, or his team, did not think he was good enough to beat either Klitschko brother, so they kept him away from the belts until the Klitschkos retired.

                Why would Joshua duck the man who ducked the man he beat, lol? It's just as Joshua's trainer said, even though Wilder is an American heavyweight with lots of knockouts who should be a big star already, the fact that Wilder has been so protected, and never fought anyone good, has made it so that even in his mid-thirties, Wilder is still basically an unproven prospect, and thus has limited stardom in boxing or with casual fans. As a result, the market for the fight is not there to make Joshua, or Wilder, the money they want for it yet, and that is why they are going to wait another 10 months or so.

                It has nothing to do with ducking. If Wilder had simply done his job and actually fought top competition by now, then he would be a star himself, and the fight would have been made already. But he ducked the entire top 10 of the division for the last decade, so now not only does he have to wait, which I couldn't care less about because his career had made it clear that he prefers waiting to fighting anyway, but the fans have to wait too, which means you all should be criticizing Wilder for this, not Joshua. Deontay "Al Haymon Protection Program" Wilder has been nothing but bad for boxing since he turned pro. And if he had faced the top boxers the last 10 years, he would have been knocked out five times already and exposed as the hype job he is, and then we wouldn't even have to waste time talking about Joshua-Wilder now, which is going to be the biggest charade, as well as the megafight built around the two least talented boxers, that fans have seen in the history of the sport. Who will win, the predictable limited robot with awful stamina and a below average chin, or the flailer with an awful chin? Prime Tyson Fury, let alone Klitschko, would have beaten both of them easily, and if Usyk can bulk up to heavyweight without losing speed or stamina, and show a good chin, he might actually box circles around Joshua as well.

                The division is a joke right now. Everyone said the Klitschko era had no talent in the division besides them, but if Klitschko had fought Deontay Wilder four years ago, everyone would have accused him of fighting a chinny bum. But now that he got old and was barely defeated by Anthony Joshua, and then retired, we're supposed to artificially elevate the level of both Wilder and Joshua back up? That makes no sense.

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                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic
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                  The division is a joke right now. Everyone said the Klitschko era had no talent in the division besides them, but if Klitschko had fought Deontay Wilder four years ago, everyone would have accused him of fighting a chinny bum. But now that he got old and was barely defeated by Anthony Joshua, and then retired, we're supposed to artificially elevate the level of both Wilder and Joshua back up? That makes no sense.
                  ... therefore, the division is a joke since quite long ago...

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                  • Sweet_Science_
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                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                    Cant believe there are people who think Joshua is ducking Wilder. It was Wilder who ducked the Klitschkos for an entire decade. Joshua had less than 20 pro fights and was still willing to fight Klitschko before Wilder was, which is the biggest reason Joshua is a superstar now and Wilder isn't. Wilder could have been what Joshua is now five or more years ago, but either he, or his team, did not think he was good enough to beat either Klitschko brother, so they kept him away from the belts until the Klitschkos retired.

                    Why would Joshua duck the man who ducked the man he beat, lol? It's just as Joshua's trainer said, even though Wilder is an American heavyweight with lots of knockouts who should be a big star already, the fact that Wilder has been so protected, and never fought anyone good, has made it so that even in his mid-thirties, Wilder is still basically an unproven prospect, and thus has limited stardom in boxing or with casual fans. As a result, the market for the fight is not there to make Joshua, or Wilder, the money they want for it yet, and that is why they are going to wait another 10 months or so.

                    It has nothing to do with ducking. If Wilder had simply done his job and actually fought top competition by now, then he would be a star himself, and the fight would have been made already. But he ducked the entire top 10 of the division for the last decade, so now not only does he have to wait, which I couldn't care less about because his career had made it clear that he prefers waiting to fighting anyway, but the fans have to wait too, which means you all should be criticizing Wilder for this, not Joshua. Deontay "Al Haymon Protection Program" Wilder has been nothing but bad for boxing since he turned pro. And if he had faced the top boxers the last 10 years, he would have been knocked out five times already and exposed as the hype job he is, and then we wouldn't even have to waste time talking about Joshua-Wilder now, which is going to be the biggest charade, as well as the megafight built around the two least talented boxers, that fans have seen in the history of the sport. Who will win, the predictable limited robot with awful stamina and a below average chin, or the flailer with an awful chin? Prime Tyson Fury, let alone Klitschko, would have beaten both of them easily, and if Usyk can bulk up to heavyweight without losing speed or stamina, and show a good chin, he might actually box circles around Joshua as well.

                    The division is a joke right now. Everyone said the Klitschko era had no talent in the division besides them, but if Klitschko had fought Deontay Wilder four years ago, everyone would have accused him of fighting a chinny bum. But now that he got old and was barely defeated by Anthony Joshua, and then retired, we're supposed to artificially elevate the level of both Wilder and Joshua back up? That makes no sense.
                    Well said. Wilder hasn't been around all that long since winning his Bronze medal.
                    His team should have matched him tougher before he became a titlist.
                    Imo, I liked Parker/Wilder first to unify the wbc and wbo straps.
                    At least the winner would have the rest of the crown to bring to the table with Joshua and Hearn.
                    Recently watched Parker/Takam and then Wilder/Stiverne after the Aj/Takam fight and think that all 3 of the title holders have a lot of room for improvement.
                    Joshua looked the most polished and well rounded in my opinion in watching the 3 fights.

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