Was Haye ever really a great HW?

[Mr Objecitivity]

No, because there was only one 'great' heavyweight in that era, which was Wladimir Klitschko. David Haye had the potential to become a 'great' heavyweight in nearly every other era, but except the era which Wladimir Klitschko resided in. That doesn't mean David Haye himself is that bad. Instead, it just means Wladimir Klitschko is that great, to the point where he didn't allow other potential 'greats' like David Haye to shine and form 'great' legacies themselves.

Having stated that, he didn't go 'life and death' against Nikolai Valuev. When one is outweighed by such a significant margin, the lighter boxer is forced to give up that much ground. You can't name me one boxer that didn't give up as much ground as David Haye did against Nikolai Valuev when they were also outweighed by the same margin. That's because it doesn't exist. Somenone like Andre Ward had done worse with a lesser weight disadvantage against Kovalev than Haye did with around a 100 pound weight disadvantage. Ward literally went life and death against Kovalev in their fist bout.

[LetOutTheCage]

Stop embarrassing yourselves lmao, fat boy shorty Chagaev already beat Valuev 2 years earlier and barely outweighed Haye by a whopping 10lbs.




People saying this is a great win because Haye was so small lmao. Barely threw 12, not landed, threw 12 punches per round.


Sparring? Jesus you're reaching, your lack of boxing knowledge has been exposed.

We didnt say it was a great win you litterally said Haye went life and death with Valuev when anyone actually watched the fight knows youre talking complete nonsense. Keep embarrasing yourself so the rest of us can laugh

[Cutthroat]

We didnt say it was a great win you litterally said Haye went life and death with Valuev when anyone actually watched the fight knows youre talking complete nonsense. Keep embarrasing yourself so the rest of us can laugh

Of course you are, the both of you brought up Valuev's size in relation to Haye's as if it was some sort of achievement when someone just as small already beat him 2 years earlier.

He didn't struggle yet he only threw 12 punches per round lmao, that's one of the lowest work rates in championship history.

You say Valuev isn't a great win, then you're saying Haye's resume is shyt lmao. You boys trapped yourselves into a corner, consider yourself embarrassed.

If Valuev isn't a great win, guys like Audley Harrison, Dereick Chisora, Ruiz sure as hell ain't.

[john l]

easy no........ but could have been at cruiser maybe

[john l]

valuev =the big preem.Val wanna worst title holders of this era. Haye could have been at very least 2nd best cruiser had he stuck around.Maybe he already was at time

[LetOutTheCage]

Of course you are, the both of you brought up Valuev's size in relation to Haye's as if it was some sort of achievement when someone just as small already beat him 2 years earlier.

He didn't struggle yet he only threw 12 punches per round lmao, that's one of the lowest work rates in championship history.

You say Valuev isn't a great win, then you're saying Haye's resume is shyt lmao. You boys trapped yourselves into a corner, consider yourself embarrassed.

If Valuev isn't a great win, guys like Audley Harrison, Dereick Chisora, Ruiz sure as hell ain't.

Lol @ going life and death, do you even know what that means? I like how you fail to mention that Valuev also beat Holyfield (a so called great).

Do you still think Andy Lee is a current great at 160? Lol at this clown.

[Earl-Hickey]

He was a breath of fresh air at one point. I mean we had years of klitschko vs ibragamov and all this other boring rubbish so Haye did bring excitment.

Never did his style translate well vs super heavies though

[Cutthroat]

Lol @ going life and death, do you even know what that means? I like how you fail to mention that Valuev also beat Holyfield (a so called great).

Do you still think Andy Lee is a current great at 160? Lol at this clown.

He threw 12 punches per round, that's going life and death. Haye was scared ****less to throw and was running for dear life, that may be the worse bicycle act in boxing's championship history.

Holyfield was 46 years old when he fought Valuev and arguably beat him lmao. Holyfield was great in the 90's, the guy made his pro debut in 1984.

46 year old Holyfield, 39 year old Ruiz, both gave Valuev he could handle. Chagaev already beat him and he had Hepatitis B, I literally can't make that shyt up.

[LetOutTheCage]

He threw 12 punches per round, that's going life and death. Haye was scared ****less to throw and was running for dear life, that may be the worse bicycle act in boxing's championship history.

Holyfield was 46 years old when he fought Valuev and arguably beat him lmao. Holyfield was great in the 90's, the guy made his pro debut in 1984.

46 year old Holyfield, 39 year old Ruiz, both gave Valuev he could handle. Chagaev already beat him and he had Hepatitis B, I literally can't make that shyt up.

Comedy gold, this guy knows nothing about boxing. Keep trying to convince yourself that Andy is a modern great.

Life and death Looooooooool

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Not a great fighter, but an exciting and dangerous one.. (minus the klitchko fight)