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  • Eff Pandas
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    #101
    Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
    Seems this is going the Mayweather-Pacquiao way of marination.
    Lets not go that far. We aren't even in the region of Canelo vs GGG marination yet.

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      #102
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      It amazes me as well, this is glaringly obvious. Being from the UK, I am ashsamed of some of these Hearn/Matchroom fanboys. I almost feel sorry for them, they are so brainwashed and deluded by this Sky/Hearn/Matchroom propaganda. I actually quite like AJ and I believe he genuinely wants the Wilder fight, Wilder equally wants the fight also. Unfortunately Eddie Hearn's greed and ego is standing in the way of this fight
      In fairness if Joshua has the power you suggest he can make the Wilder fight happen with or without Hearn's approval or even him being involved in the promotion perhaps.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #103
        Originally posted by methodcal
        Im from the States and I can appreciate your honesty here. As true boxing fans we should want this. Some of your country men are talking crazy on this matter though. Glad you're unbiase.
        The problem with UK boxing at the moment, is Hearn/Matchroom have an exclusive deal with sky. Sky dominates the subscription TV market in the UK. A large majority of UK fans only watch boxing on sky so essentially become Matchroom fans instead of boxing fans. Sky/Matchroom continually feed these people propaganda through various platforms and they become essentially brainwashed constantly listening to bias commentators and pundits such as, Froch, Nelson, Bellew, Smith etc who are all on the Sky/Matchroom payroll. This essentially allows Eddie Hearn to create a false narrative in any situation, an obvious example of this is the AJ/Wilder/Whyte nonesense where Hearn has created a false narrative to aid his own agenda.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          In fairness if Joshua has the power you suggest he can make the Wilder fight happen with or without Hearn's approval or even him being involved in the promotion perhaps.
          He probably could, but AJ seems a the type of fights who allows his team to pick the opponent, he just gets in the ring and fight's. I don't think AJ really understand's the business enough yet to go it alone. He's not a guy who's grown up in the boxing business like a Floyd

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            #105
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            There's no way of it being confirmed either way but I guarantee you Hearn ain't getting nowhere near %15. There's a reason AJ launched his own promotional company (AJ BXNG) so he doesn't have to pay a promoter a percentage fee.
            Floyd done the same with Mayweather promotions, Hearn is essentially what Elletbe was for Floyd.
            No, you clearly don't understand the setup. (AJ BXNG) is his management company who look after AJ's sponsorship and marketing. Has nothing to do with promotion.

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              #106
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              The problem with UK boxing at the moment, is Hearn/Matchroom have an exclusive deal with sky. Sky dominates the subscription TV market in the UK. A large majority of UK fans only watch boxing on sky so essentially become Matchroom fans instead of boxing fans. Sky/Matchroom continually feed these people propaganda through various platforms and they become essentially brainwashed constantly listening to bias commentators and pundits such as, Froch, Nelson, Bellew, Smith etc who are all on the Sky/Matchroom payroll. This essentially allows Eddie Hearn to create a false narrative in any situation, an obvious example of this is the AJ/Wilder/Whyte nonesense where Hearn has created a false narrative to aid his own agenda.

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              • methodcal
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                #107
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Common sense often isn't so common in boxing.

                But I'm hoping your right that he's paying Hearn a flat fee to promote his shows. Joshua needs to be getting that hotdog & beer money too at this point. Joshua should have checks coming in months after fights from back end sh^t.
                Aj isn't manny.... Im sure he is getting a Small Percentage but id lean towards flat fee. AJ isn't manny please let me reiterate. Lol

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                  #108
                  Some of these comments are completely commercially naive.

                  Hearn is doing his job. His job is to put on entertaining fights with as much revenue as he can collect. That's in his interest and its in the interest of the fighters. And by the way, that's in the interest of Wilder.

                  Wilder is doing his job. He's calling out AJ to promote the fight. And he's making an issue of everything he can to do that. I have no problem with that. That's in the interest of Hearn and AJ and they know it.

                  Hearn is doing his job. One of the earlier posts got it right. He can't pre-negotiate a deal with Wilder for a fight in the future after other fights because those in between fights condition the market value of the AJ Wilder fight. Isn't that obvious. BTW Wilder knows that. He isn't saying he'll fight Whyte if Hearn guarantees a deal for AJ next because he thinks it will happen - it's just a talking point to promote the fight.

                  Anyone who thinks AJ and Hearn are positioning themselves to duck Wilder is just naive.

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                    #109
                    Why so scared of "Wilder the bum crusher" like many call him? Should be an easy fight for Joshua, no?

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                      He probably could, but AJ seems a the type of fights who allows his team to pick the opponent, he just gets in the ring and fight's. I don't think AJ really understand's the business enough yet to go it alone. He's not a guy who's grown up in the boxing business like a Floyd
                      I think Joshua knows whats up with his opposition & how important appearances are in who you fight at this level of the game. Wasn't Joshua the one who ultimately made the decision to pull the trigger on fighting for a belt & more importantly the Klitschko fight? I mean Joshua sure as f#ck knew who Klitschko was & what a W would mean for him.

                      The finer points of the business side of boxing I don't doubt is a harder hill to climb doe so fair play to him with that. Just finding the guys who won't f#ck you over & who won't get you f#cked over by some other guys is about the max one can reasonably do while also trying to be the best athlete they can be I feel with that stuff.

                      Can't be a elite businessman + an elite level boxer. I don't even think Floyd was that. I think Floyd hired the right guys, namely Haymon, who took care of that for him. If Floyd was looking at as many contracts as Haymon was there is a problem & I'd argue the same would be the case for Joshua or any boxer.

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