Jermall Charlo vs Ryoto Murata.

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  • Zaroku
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    #11
    Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
    Charlo is a bit overrated now imo, at 160. Heiland bout wasn't something to assess. Jermall and Andrade were like the biggest 154 fighters, but now they have to test their chins at 160. I say about 10% less increase of speed from Jermall now at 160, which would be as fast as N'Dam. I think Jacobs, being the more seasoned is faster than Charlo as well. Nelo at 160, so far and unfortunately, looks to be slowest ever - and will have to restrategize better ways to win, though not bad since he started at Light Welter...

    Murata is a big ass dude and is really really good with the high guard. Charlo likes to pop alot on top, so one significant strategy that the Japanese crew could do, as they did before, is coming forward all day the first half and wear Jermall out. It's a higher weight, let's see his conditioning at 160 against the Olympian. I say it goes 12...but not certain of the outcome.

    Again, Murata is a big ass dude and he's hella game.
    Charlo might find himself backing up a lot, but Murata said it himself, "now, I'm going to fight the best MW's. It can't be helped"

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #12
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      Which is interesting to the fact if Charlo fights Murata or Jacobs it would be the first time in his life he would be out sized and out gunned in terms of power.
      I'm 50/50 with Jacobs.

      I don't know how the hells Jacobs does 160 considering how many cells he blasted out in chemo yet still strong enough to hang at 160. Imo, Jacobs should be at 168 and take advantage of his youth. He consistently sells himself at 160 as being the bigger and more seasoned against opponents, but then that narrative gets old just like GGG's narratives.

      the Jacobs fans and GGG fans are selfish as hell. As I'd liked to see Jacobs attempt 168, I mean who knows how he performs, doesn't have to drain, could perhaps feel better.... but if his psychology has been to have been dropped on several occassions then I could see why he is weary to go to 168.... This is why I have a lot of respect for Eubank Jr. As unlucky as that guy is, he's daring to be great at a higher weight regardless if he's more toothpick now than his opposition. Eubank Jr. trains hard as hell which makes him rugid in the ring as any elite should.

      But again, mentioned Jacobs or GGG at 168 and they create insecure excuses. I think Jacobs could do well at 168 as well as GGG. I don't see how these two aren't fancying trying to be a two weight division champ when old narratives have been played out. Jacobs wouldnt be a 2 division champ, but GGG could, seeing as Jacobs hasnt won an official tip top World Title. The other said 154-168 was easy FFS...

      Tbh, this is why I wouldn't mind seeing a new breed blast these 2 out for karma, but I gotta ride with the Brooklynite

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        #13
        Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
        These 160 fools should be lining up to fight Charlo. The longer they wait the more this guy acclimates to this new weight. Pretty soon he gonna be dropping people with jabs like he was at 154, and then it will be too late to take him out then.

        But Jacobs and GGG won't even say his name and Jacobs ran to the HBO and Eddie Hearn protection services as soon as Jermall moved up to 160.
        I agree, they should fight him now before he gets better.

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          #14
          I don't think Jermall has lost any speed moving from 154 to 160. If anything he will be stronger and faster. He won't be weight drained as he probably was making 154. Look at him at 160 pounds. He is all bone and muscle without an ounce of extra weight. Why would he be slower? Fat makes a boxer slower. More muscle makes him stronger and faster. Six pounds isn't much weight but whatever weight Jermall put on is all muscle and less water loss trying to make 154.He needed to move to 160. Canelo is also faster and stronger than ever at 160. He no longer has to struggle to make 154. That makes him a healthier, stronger and faster boxer. You can't tell much about Jermall from his last fight because he KOed a crippled boxer. Jermall has always had speed, power and precision and he will be even better at 160. I don't think he is quite good enough to beat Canelo, Jacobs or GGG but he would beat Murata in my opinion.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Thraxox
            It was Charlo's trainer himself that ruled out the possibility of Jacobs and to not push Charlo too fast to the lions den.
            Link please.

            Murata beats Andrade....

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              #16
              Originally posted by Thraxox
              Which is interesting to the fact if Charlo fights Murata or Jacobs it would be the first time in his life he would be out sized and out gunned in terms of power.
              sure, but that's just boxing...that's expected when you move up in weights.

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