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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostYou didn’t understand my point. I’ll break it down very simple for you to understand..
If you or I are promoters, and we could host a fight in Madrid vs Las Vegas. Which two cities would most likely make sense? Which one would make more money? Now, because of the Ali Act and a boxer’s mgmt and legal, the boxers MUST be compensated per capita. That means Joshua and Wilder make way more money in Vegas or the UK then anywhere else. I don’t fault a promoter for trying to gain or take advantage from a flat fee to make more profit for themselves, but not all boxers nor Haymon are suckers when Wilder can do just fine on his own and already matched 7 million on his own.
Hearn comes off too greedy. Wilder and Haymon had already agreed to fight Whyte under the deal that they would get Joshua next, in the event Hearn tried malicious stuff with judges.
You're the gift that keeps on giving mate.
Look, you like Wilder right.....
And you watched him fight Fury...right
And you're on here spouting stuff about Hearn hypothetically doing funny business with judging..
That's irony.
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Originally posted by 15 Rounds again View PostLol. A promoter 'exploiting' sold out arenas ! LMAO.
Let me educate you a bit about value expectancy.
Let's say Anthony Joshua has a chain of lemonade stands in the UK and does $50M of business in a 'normal' quarter.
Let's say Deontay Wilder has a chain of lemonade stands in the USA and does about $3M a quarter.
Then Mr.Wilder suggests to Mr.Joshua that they merge their businesses for one quarter and split the profit down the middle.
Starting to see the picture?
Why would the bigger, more profitable guy give up his greater revenue and profit cos some little fart of a guy expects too.much?
If you or I are promoters, and we could host a fight in Madrid vs Las Vegas. Which two cities would most likely make sense? Which one would make more money? Now, because of the Ali Act and a boxer’s mgmt and legal, the boxers MUST be compensated per capita. That means Joshua and Wilder make way more money in Vegas or the UK then anywhere else. I don’t fault a promoter for trying to gain or take advantage from a flat fee to make more profit for themselves, but not all boxers nor Haymon are suckers when Wilder can do just fine on his own and already matched 7 million on his own.
Hearn comes off too greedy. Wilder and Haymon had already agreed to fight Whyte under the deal that they would get Joshua next, in the event Hearn tried malicious stuff with judges.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostThe difference is that Wilder has made 7 million without Matchroom and a UK venue. You think Hearn wouldn’t profit from Wilder vs Whyte in the UK that he wouldn’t be able to provide Wilder that guarantee? This is the WBC Champion, blood. Bid and consider or stfu.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostYou don’t know how to calculate value and expectancy. Whyte is not a Champion. To bring over Wilder to the UK where Hearn exploits sold out arenas, then you have to pay for that. That’s how promotion works. When you promote you have to break even, in all industries. Hearn would never lose on Wilder’s demand for 7 million in the UK.
Ortiz vs Wilder in New York is not the same revenue as Wilder in the UK. You need to know how to value things. Wilder, the defending WBC Champion is a commodity in the UK. Whyte in the USA is not.
Let me educate you a bit about value expectancy.
Let's say Anthony Joshua has a chain of lemonade stands in the UK and does $50M of business in a 'normal' quarter.
Let's say Deontay Wilder has a chain of lemonade stands in the USA and does about $3M a quarter.
Then Mr.Wilder suggests to Mr.Joshua that they merge their businesses for one quarter and split the profit down the middle.
Starting to see the picture?
Why would the bigger, more profitable guy give up his greater revenue and profit cos some little fart of a guy expects too.much?
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Originally posted by 15 Rounds again View PostThe difference you don't seem able to grasp is that Fury actually follows up his big mouth and fights guys.
Wilder has been ****ing on about "one name one face" for 2 years but when **** gets real he changes to 'I'll never fight Joshua. I dont need Whyte" etc.
If you can't see what is right in front of your face I can't help you.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostWilder made more than 7 million with Fury, and Fury is the biggest talker from all the Heavyweights. Still, fans embrace this talk in the sport. To downplay Heavyweight verbiage makes a fan look soft. Fury isn’t passive like AJ.
Wilder has been ****ing on about "one name one face" for 2 years but when **** gets real he changes to 'I'll never fight Joshua. I dont need Whyte" etc.
If you can't see what is right in front of your face I can't help you.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostWhat’s funnier is people making threads to mock 7 million vs 15 million. Hearn saying “Wilder wants 7 million...” in 2017 and yet makes more than that in the Fury fight. Somehow the Pro Hearn Brigade doesn’t realize that Haymon tells Wilder what he should and can earn. “Earn With Hearn” is a failure when a guy says “50 million is peanuts.”
Now we’ve got threads of “expected to earn” not guarantees... articles pushing the Miller fight.
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Originally posted by Jax teller View PostYou do realise this article is Wilder saying he want 7-10 million to fight Dillian Whyte (pre-PPV draw for both guys, Whyte hadn't even fought Browne yet)? And Wilder then went on to fight Ortiz a guy who you say is much better for less than 3 million.
Ortiz vs Wilder in New York is not the same revenue as Wilder in the UK. You need to know how to value things. Wilder, the defending WBC Champion is a commodity in the UK. Whyte in the USA is not.
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Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View PostWhat’s funnier is people making threads to mock 7 million vs 15 million. Hearn saying “Wilder wants 7 million...” in 2017 and yet makes more than that in the Fury fight. Somehow the Pro Hearn Brigade doesn’t realize that Haymon tells Wilder what he should and can earn. “Earn With Hearn” is a failure when a guy says “50 million is peanuts.”
Now we’ve got threads of “expected to earn” not guarantees... articles pushing the Miller fight.
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