Comments Thread For: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

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  • Zaroku
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    #191
    Originally posted by MDPopescu
    ... Well, Ward is very articulated and he looks polite... (and he must have been in a good mood, back the...)
    He is articulate, polite & seemed down to earth.

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #192
      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
      http://mayweatherpromotions.com/fighters/badou-jack/

      TMT website. His boss is a proven racist.

      Keep quaking!! You're the one that's being pathetic.

      *Waiting on the oppression excuse* I know it's coming.
      Are you sure that you're talking to me or another poster because the above quote is about as ridiculous as it gets, lmao Oppression excuse? Bruh, you're talking to a grown man. Get away from the computer and enjoy some quality time with the family. Wtf, lmao...did you let your son get on your computer/laptop and post for you, lmao...!!!???

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      • Raggamuffin
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        #193
        Originally posted by Vlad_
        Yeah Russia is mostly a shlthole that’s falling apart, but pvssies like you and Ward would never dare to go there in person.
        Yet so many americans don’t realize how great they have it and how shltty it can be elsewhere.
        A dirty ref stopped a fight on lowblows, that’s a fact. All the rest is theoretical hypothesis.
        Dirty ref? How many ****en excuses are you clown ass Kov fans going to come up with? Dirty ref, lmao.

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        • ruedboy
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          #194
          Originally posted by Zaroku
          He is articulate, polite & seemed down to earth.
          Ward might be a great human being outside the ring but when he fought his whole game was based on illegal tactics (holding, head butts, hitting on the break, etc). The refs let him get away with it because of his rep but his grubby, low style will never be mistaken for sportsman like.

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          • john l
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            #195
            Originally posted by Vlad_
            He’s retired, also a fact.
            yea and that means what??with what we were talkin about?

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            • Zaroku
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              #196
              Originally posted by ruedboy
              Ward might be a great human being outside the ring but when he fought his whole game was based on illegal tactics (holding, head butts, hitting on the break, etc). The refs let him get away with it because of his rep but his grubby, low style will never be mistaken for sportsman like.
              He bends & stretches the rules...but if the refs let him...,...???

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #197
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                Ward and Jack the two best body punchers in the sport lol?

                Anyway you have to understand everything is relative. Jack was the bigger, stronger man than Degale, so of course that lets you boss the inside. Just like Salido bossed the inside vs Lomachenko even though Lomachenko is technically the better body puncher. But size matters. Salido had a huge size advantage.

                Kovalev and Ward were about equal in strength, and Ward is extremely strong. Kovalev had him in headlocks for most of their two fights though. Kovalev bossed the inside within the rules when Ward ducked down and came up with his head. Ward's real success inside was with cheating and low blows. But as I said, Ward is very strong. Jack may not be that strong. If Kovalev is the bigger and stronger man, Jack's vaunted inside game will not look anything like it did against Degale. Degale simply could not keep Jack off him. Too small, not powerful enough. Kovalev is a different animal.

                Now, if Jack CAN get inside, and rip lots of body shots, and Kovalev starts fatiguing again three rounds into the fight, then he has a chance. But calling Jack the best body puncher in the sport because he bullied smaller men at 168 is wrong imo. There's a reason Jack cant even make 168 anymore. He was a light heavy fighting at 168 and that will make things look better than they are, just like Hurd, Charlo, and all these guys at 154 will not look as good at 160 once they stop weight bullying guys.

                But hopefully we see the fight. Jack has a lot of hype behind him at the moment. I hope we see Kovalev-Jack next.
                Best inside fighters. Not necessarily best body punchers (though both are very good). Depends how much clinching Kovalev is allowed to get away with, he pushed the boundaries in the first Ward fight IMO.

                Biggest thing for Jack is getting past that preposterous jab and right hand that Kovalev has. No mean feat, on balance i would say he likely takes too much damage trying to get inside. Ward is elite and tough as nails.

                Only saying that its an interesting fight, not that JAck would definitely win. I would like to see it.

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                • ruedboy
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Zaroku
                  He bends & stretches the rules...but if the refs let him...,...???
                  True, that's boxing and the bottom line is he retired undefeated. I'll remember Ward as a guy who had to bend the rules to compete at the top level of boxing.
                  Last edited by ruedboy; 10-21-2017, 12:16 PM.

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                    #199
                    In the Trump era, being black or brown basically legitimizes use of the race card in any given scenario.

                    It's easier than being a responsible father, getting educated or....actually working for $$$.

                    Dindu nuthin, white ****s oppressin me doe.

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                    • A.K
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Zaroku
                      He bends & stretches the rules...but if the refs let him...,...???
                      Police murder innocent people but the government turns the other cheek to it does that make it ok?

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