Wladimir Klitschko is DUCKING James Toney!

[!!Captain]

If Toney was any good as a heavyweight, he would be the one setting the price, not Wlad. There's a reason Wlad's setting the price and not Toney.

If Toney were smart (or brave) enough he would take the 1.5. Then if he wins he can set the price for his next fight as a champion. Like Wlad.

I don't think Toney really wants this fight.

Now look what you've done! Poor Boozo is going to have to explain why you're wrong to you now. He's already explained to 5-6 other people in this thread, and now it's you.

[ntx_cok4u]

!.5 mil says you want to fight a bum! not James Toney

People let me just say this you think Klitschko is a bigger draw than Toney? Klitschko may or may not beat James Toney but you are talking about 1.5 mil for former middleweight HALL OF FAMER!!!!!!
to fight A 6"6 heavyweight who beat who Byrd! won a controversl match against Peter ,who laid Klitschko ass on the mat twice. Plus Sanders and Brewster kicked his ass. On the other hand you have had a overweight James toney Who has yet to have his ass kicked by Two so called champions. In fact the only thing that kept him for beating Rock ass was his weight!!!! But still Did not lose. As for John Ruiz Yea Toney was doped up thats the only reason he beat Ruiz!!!! (Give me a ****ing Break!) If you dont like Toney I can understand that! he ca be an *******! but don't question the skills and give some respect To a 5"9 hall of fame champion who has the guts and the skill to not only show up but show up to fight anybody. 1.5 mil is a ****ing insult. It says Klitschko dont really want to dealwith Toney! So i guess Wald has his little ABC Title around his waist it makes him more of a draw? Yea he migh,might beat an out of shape getting older James Toney. But buy boxing standers Wald is not a pimple on Jamey Toney Ass. Never was and Never Will Be Wald got a good one two punch thats it. but he aint got no heart boys you have seen before and you will see it again!!!

[7001]

People let me just say this you think Klitschko is a bigger draw than Toney? Klitschko may or may not beat James Toney but you are talking about 1.5 mil for former middleweight HALL OF FAMER!!!!!!
to fight A 6"6 heavyweight who beat who Byrd! won a controversl match against Peter ,who laid Klitschko ass on the mat twice. Plus Sanders and Brewster kicked his ass. On the other hand you have had a overweight James toney Who has yet to have his ass kicked by Two so called champions. In fact the only thing that kept him for beating Rock ass was his weight!!!! But still Did not lose. As for John Ruiz Yea Toney was doped up thats the only reason he beat Ruiz!!!! (Give me a ****ing Break!) If you dont like Toney I can understand that! he ca be an *******! but don't question the skills and give some respect To a 5"9 hall of fame champion who has the guts and the skill to not only show up but show up to fight anybody. 1.5 mil is a ****ing insult. It says Klitschko dont really want to dealwith Toney! So i guess Wald has his little ABC Title around his waist it makes him more of a draw? Yea he migh,might beat an out of shape getting older James Toney. But buy boxing standers Wald is not a pimple on Jamey Toney Ass. Never was and Never Will Be Wald got a good one two punch thats it. but he aint got no heart boys you have seen before and you will see it again!!!

First, there was nothing conroversial about the Wlad vs Peter fight. Wlad won that fight on points. Second, he slaughtered Byrd. I think Toney don't want to fight him because he knows he will get his ass handed to him. He knows he won't be able to eat 40 cheeseburgers a day and show up for this fight. He would have to train. Toney has turned into a fat turd with no punching power. He should have stayed where he was, because he has done nothing in the HW division but get fatter. I wouldn't give him 100 thousand.

[elgaringo]

Toney has'nt done anything to deserve a shot at Wlad at heavy! The only reason he should probably fight him is cos the fans would like to see it and Toneys a big name

[ntx_cok4u]

First, there was nothing conroversial about the Wlad vs Peter fight. Wlad won that fight on points. Second, he slaughtered Byrd. I think Toney don't want to fight him because he knows he will get his ass handed to him. He knows he won't be able to eat 40 cheeseburgers a day and show up for this fight. He would have to train. Toney has turned into a fat turd with no punching power. He should have stayed where he was, because he has done nothing in the HW division but get fatter. I wouldn't give him 100 thousand.

Conroversial yea when an unschooled young fighter fights a well schooled fighter your supposed to out class the unschooled fighter not get knocked on your ass twice and pull a john ruiz with that hitting and holding on for dear life past the point of a boxing clench!! And watch the fight again it was dam close fight alot closer than it should have been.with out manny stwert Wald loses that fight! Byrd come on! another blown up middleweight!!! When you look at it wald should beat the hell out of any 5"9 middle weight! But it comes down to this 1.5 mill is a insult!! And if you cant see or understand that James Toney is one hell of a toughass fighter that should dam well be respected! Well then just like my great grandfather said YOU CAN'T FIX ******!!!!! You dumb ass!

[OptimusWolf]

Peter was hyped as the next big thing in the HW decision so that win in adverse conditions was worth something.

You guys really don't know economics.

1)Wlad has the belts and a free defence.
2)Toney can make money for a fight with his history and loud mouth
3)Wlad wants to make maximum money from his free defence
4)Toney wants to make money from his last few fights before he hits 300lbs

So its natural that Wlad will go after Toney and offer him as little as he can to get him in the ring. 1.5m is a low offer but its exactly that - an unsubstantiated offer to open negotiations.

Toney doesn't deserve anything, but Wlad may offer him a bit more and get him to accept the beating he would surely take off mini klit.

[ntx_cok4u]

Peter was hyped as the next big thing in the HW decision so that win in adverse conditions was worth something.

You guys really don't know economics.

1)Wlad has the belts and a free defence.
2)Toney can make money for a fight with his history and loud mouth
3)Wlad wants to make maximum money from his free defence
4)Toney wants to make money from his last few fights before he hits 300lbs

So its natural that Wlad will go after Toney and offer him as little as he can to get him in the ring. 1.5m is a low offer but its exactly that - an unsubstantiated offer to open negotiations.

Toney doesn't deserve anything, but Wlad may offer him a bit more and get him to accept the beating he would surely take off mini klit.

And what does Wlad deserve? A 60 40 split. and for what! your right manny stewert is protecting wald ass picking his fights very cearfully! And yea Peter is hyped as the next big thing just like Wlad was before Sanders knocked him out! the difference is peter was out classed against Wlad! NOT BEAT!! but willing to fight him again asap! or anybody else for that matter. You Tell me one good HW that Wlad has beaten? over the hill Ray Mercer. A green Samual Peter, or that great soft hitting Chris Byrd! please! Wlad gets his ass kicked By average HW that can hit . So you Can hang all of those ABC belts on Wlad you want but out of all the belt holders he is the one that has fought no one! And won. Hell Toney has fought Better HW than Wlad. And Wlad may bring the belt to the ring , but Toney brings the people! So lets get real if he want to fight Toney Come with the money it takes to get a hall of fame fighter in the ring! and try to beat up on another blown up middle weight!

[OptimusWolf]

Ok then maybe the fight can't be made because Wlad thinks he can make more money taking his first defence in germany then hoping the IBF give him a good mandatory in the states. But then loads of you guys would accuse him of running back to Europe with his belts.

The key points is that it's up to him though, Toney can take or leave his offer, even if it was 95-5 he doesn't have to take it.

[GunStar]

People let me just say this you think Klitschko is a bigger draw than Toney? Klitschko may or may not beat James Toney but you are talking about 1.5 mil for former middleweight HALL OF FAMER!!!!!!
to fight A 6"6 heavyweight who beat who Byrd! won a controversl match against Peter ,who laid Klitschko ass on the mat twice. Plus Sanders and Brewster kicked his ass. On the other hand you have had a overweight James toney Who has yet to have his ass kicked by Two so called champions. In fact the only thing that kept him for beating Rock ass was his weight!!!! But still Did not lose. As for John Ruiz Yea Toney was doped up thats the only reason he beat Ruiz!!!! (Give me a ****ing Break!) If you dont like Toney I can understand that! he ca be an *******! but don't question the skills and give some respect To a 5"9 hall of fame champion who has the guts and the skill to not only show up but show up to fight anybody. 1.5 mil is a ****ing insult. It says Klitschko dont really want to dealwith Toney! So i guess Wald has his little ABC Title around his waist it makes him more of a draw? Yea he migh,might beat an out of shape getting older James Toney. But buy boxing standers Wald is not a pimple on Jamey Toney Ass. Never was and Never Will Be Wald got a good one two punch thats it. but he aint got no heart boys you have seen before and you will see it again!!!

Great post!

[7001]

Conroversial yea when an unschooled young fighter fights a well schooled fighter your supposed to out class the unschooled fighter not get knocked on your ass twice and pull a john ruiz with that hitting and holding on for dear life past the point of a boxing clench!! And watch the fight again it was dam close fight alot closer than it should have been.with out manny stwert Wald loses that fight! Byrd come on! another blown up middleweight!!! When you look at it wald should beat the hell out of any 5"9 middle weight! But it comes down to this 1.5 mill is a insult!! And if you cant see or understand that James Toney is one hell of a toughass fighter that should dam well be respected! Well then just like my great grandfather said YOU CAN'T FIX ******!!!!! You dumb ass!

And exactly what do you call James Toney. A blown up middle weight. FYI, Byrd is 6' not 5'9" like Toney. No heart! That's a laugh. You gottta' give the man his props for getting his ass off of the mat and winning the fight. I am not a Wlad fan but I will give credit where credit is due. You've got 7 posts since Jan 2005, and calling people names. Go back underneath your rock. Is your name Boodturd?