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Wladimir Klitschko is DUCKING James Toney!
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Originally posted by boxing2005LMAO, typical "Bozo" response. You can't answer a straight "yes or no" question because you know you will look like a fool. Good luck Boozo, you must be even more ****** than I thought.
So you go from having no response, back to useless and bitter flaming, and now back to having no response.
Brilliant.
I know it's not very fun for you when your nut hugging logic is so easilly shot down, but you really need to come up with some new material.
Keep me mentioned in your sig for a few more years and see if that dulls some of the pain.
lol
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Originally posted by Bozo_no noSo you go from having no response, back to useless and bitter flaming, and now back to having no response.
Brilliant.
I know it's not very fun for you when your nut hugging logic is so easilly shot down, but you really need to come up with some new material.
Keep me mentioned in your sig for a few more years and see if that dulls some of the pain.
lol
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Originally posted by Gunstar1Wow that's an impressive list of fighters, Wlad nut-huggers make it sound like his resume is the best in the HW divison. Damn Toney's 5 fights in the HW division is better then this list. Holyfield, Booker, Ruiz, Guin & Rahman. 4 W O L 1 D.
The only serious contender who Toney has beaten was Holyfield, three years ago, who was well past it. I mean, who else has Toney beaten?
If you think that compares with what Wlad has done in the past year and a half, then you're silly or ******, or both.
-Peter was considered the top HW contender, and most dangerous HW alive and Wlad beat him unrecognizable.
-Byrd was considered the most highly regarded HW titlist, and #1 in most's HW top 10, and Wlad destroyed him like he was an amateur.Last edited by mECHsLAVE; 06-09-2006, 06:15 PM.
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Why should a man who got caught with roids in one fight and lost the next fight get anything more then 2mil?
2mil is all that I would give Toney.
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Toney, although the challenger, deserves more $$$ than Quitschko if they fight, or AT LEAST financial parity....
Quitschko is 2-2 vs. world class heavyweights (2 wins over the feather-fisted Chris Byrd, and losses vs. Sanders and Brewster who could actually punch), a .500 record at the elite level is nothing to brag about....
Toney's hit-list includes Nunn, Barkley, Jirov, and Holyfield, 4 guys who at one point or another dominated their respective divisions
James also has a bigger international following, Quitschko can't draw flies in the US
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Originally posted by mECHsLAVEIf you think that compares with what Wlad has done in the past year and a half, then you're silly or ******, or both.
Both fought lowly regarded world champs and won, both fought prospects and won. If anything, having fought 2 current (1 now deposed) and 1 former (shell of a) world champion, and not losing to any of them. He also fought a touted prospect in Booker and a former prospect in Guinn.
Comparatively, Wlad has fought 1 washed up world champion (I think a Byrd/Ruiz comparison is fair), 1 touted prospect in Peter and 2 nobodies.
Toney's record on the surface does seem a little more stellar, especially you you compare their last 5 fights instead of just the same time period.
That really doesn't matter, though. Little Klit still wins if this fight comes off.
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Haven't actually got time to go through the whole thread, so can someone tell me how Wlad is ducking Toney when Toney presently is - with all due respect - jack **** in the heavyweight division?
If this was a beltholder I could see the argument, but Toney's just a contender, and not a very likely one at present.
He beat Ruiz... then failed a drugs test.
He looked BAD against Rahman (a mediocre heavy) and got a draw.
I think that last fight showed that Toney - as skilful and experienced as he is - won't be able to cut it at the elite heavyweight level, even today.
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Originally posted by SacTown1Toney, although the challenger, deserves more $$$ than Quitschko if they fight, or AT LEAST financial parity....
Quitschko is 2-2 vs. world class heavyweights (2 wins over the feather-fisted Chris Byrd, and losses vs. Sanders and Brewster who could actually punch), a .500 record at the elite level is nothing to brag about....
Toney's hit-list includes Nunn, Barkley, Jirov, and Holyfield, 4 guys who at one point or another dominated their respective divisions
James also has a bigger international following, Quitschko can't draw flies in the US
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Originally posted by vB MartinIf you think Wlad' record over the same time period is any more impressive, you're nuts. They are almost identical, though Toney does have a pretty good edge in level of competion.
Both fought lowly regarded world champs and won, both fought prospects and won. If anything, having fought 2 current (1 now deposed) and 1 former (shell of a) world champion, and not losing to any of them. He also fought a touted prospect in Booker and a former prospect in Guinn.
Comparatively, Wlad has fought 1 washed up world champion (I think a Byrd/Ruiz comparison is fair), 1 touted prospect in Peter and 2 nobodies.
Toney's record on the surface does seem a little more stellar, especially you you compare their last 5 fights instead of just the same time period.
That really doesn't matter, though. Little Klit still wins if this fight comes off.
Byrd was the longest reigning tilist and considered by many to be the #1 HW. Peter was the #1 contender.
Toney has failed in everything he has done at HW other than beat 2 nobodies and an old Holyfield in 2003. Cmon.
And I really wish you Toney spinsters would stop referring to the Ruiz NC as a "win" for Toney. He cheated and was banned and suspended. That's not a win, folks. Sorry. If it was a win, then why wouldn't everyone just ignore all boxing regulations and use whatever steroids they want? LOL And if you buy that story about nobody (his physician, his trainer, his team, himself) knowing that he took Nandrolone, or that it was a steroid, then you're as naive as you are ******. There is no way in ****ing hell that a doctor is going to prescribe anabolic steroids for a professional athlete without telling him. I mean, the end. There's no way Toney continuously injected "Nandrolone" without someone in his team saying "Hey, isn't that a steroid? Will that make you test positive?" That was all a cover-up story, the same old story that every athlete uses because the media half-ass buys it: "Hey, they gave it to me and I didn't know what it was!!!" Uh, huh. Same **** as Vargas and all the rest of the busted roiders.
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