Comments Thread For: Ronnie Shields: Lara's Style is His Style - I Won't Change it For Critics!

[siablo14]

this is how Adelaide Byrd scored.....

if the guy moving forwards is not effective, then he is being outboxed - he lost the round.

you are suggesting a reverse-Byrd, because of your preference in styles

MOST old-school judges would prefer Byrd's approach

I just think she was watching Canelo too much, most likely because she favors/scores for the boxer over the puncher/pressure-fighter, unless the pressure-fighter is actually being effective..... she missed some of what Golovkin was doing, and that could be because his known strengths/tactics were not that evident

Spot on................ You killing this thread with good insights.

[aboutfkntime]

I disagree with that because when top fighters can just duck fighters because its a tough style then the sport is almost out of it and then its really done

who suggested anything like that ?

how did you come to that conclusion from my post ?

[john l]

you agreed that its ok for them not to get the big fighters becauce of their style and I think the best has to fight best.im a fan of canelo really because he fought trout and lara even though I thought he lost very close

[john l]

to lara I agreed wiyh everything else in this post u have wrote

[john l]

this is actually the best post.....

1) let him fight however he wants, the game needs all styles

2) if you don't like it, then don't watch..... that is on him

3) lets not change the rules to favor fighters who are not good enough to prevent themselves being outboxed/outclassed by better fighters

you rule-changers should stick to club fights..... more "action"..... more KO's..... and you see plenty of good scraps if the guys are evenly-matched

but don't expect A-class guys to drop their skills or fight to their opponents strengths

it was this post that u seemed to agree

[john l]

sry that was just your answer

[john l]

Fine, but then don't whine when he doesn't get the big fights.

this was post

[aboutfkntime]

why should boxing be dumbed-down for casual fans ?

For money. For making fights more entertaining to more people. I'm sure there are other reasons, but it wouldn't be THAT great of a game changer. All you'd be doing is saying aggression gets scored.

Sure that would change some small % of outcomes in any given year, but the rules have been altered many times in boxing history (go back far enough & guys used to stand right in front of each other, wrassle more, have rounds ended by a knockdown & fight without gloves) so I don't see as big of a deal with changing them again if that were to happen.

but aggression should not be scoring criteria

this is boxing, hitting without getting hit

it sounds like you are describing a totally dfifferent sport

you can see what you want in boxing every single week, just not in top-level fights..... what did you think of that club fight?

you are literally wanting to dumb-down/limit A-level boxers, which is completely unnecessary and would damage the sport

I don't think I have ever disagreed with anyone more

we can agree to disagree

peace

[john l]

but aggression should not be scoring criteria

this is boxing, hitting without getting hit

it sounds like you are describing a totally dfifferent sport

you can see what you want in boxing every single week, just not in top-level fights..... what did you think of that club fight?

you are literally wanting to dumb-down/limit A-level boxers, which is completely unnecessary and would damage the sport

I don't think I have ever disagreed with anyone more

we can agree to disagree

peace

it seems were on same page here

[aboutfkntime]

you agreed that its ok for them not to get the big fighters becauce of their style and I think the best has to fight best.im a fan of canelo really because he fought trout and lara even though I thought he lost very close

I never said anything like that

the best should fight the best, that includes ALL styles

if they don't fight the best, they don't get paid

Canelo fought the FOUR best best JMW's consecutively..... he LITERALLY cleaned out his division..... then Cotto, Golovkin, etc..... nobody should ever question his heart

not sure what you mean there, but I certainly never suggested that fighters should avoid particular styles..... I have actually had a few words to say about a particular fighter who has been doing that for a few years now lmao