Originally posted by buddyr
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Henry Armstrong- Top 5 P4P or overrated due to romanticism?
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Keep in mind, boxing was the most popular sport in the USA at that time. The best athletes tended to go into boxing.
So his competition was very good. And he often fight and defeated men much bigger than himself.
Armstrong is one of the three greatest of all time, in my opinion, along with Langford and Greb.
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Originally posted by The Hammer View PostKeep in mind, boxing was the most popular sport in the USA at that time. The best athletes tended to go into boxing.
So his competition was very good. And he often fight and defeated men much bigger than himself.
Armstrong is one of the three greatest of all time, in my opinion, along with Langford and Greb.
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostPlease take the time to actually watch/study these guys before dismissing them. You should watch a guy like Armstrong and imagine how good he could've been in the modern day with benefits of modern technology, training etc.
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Originally posted by john l View PostI get on Armstrong and maybe greb in top 10 but it really hard to place Langford didn't kecheal fight him?and Johnson beat him a few times with a lota nds.but I know Johnson was much bigger
Johnson was much taller and heavier than Langford, and though he knocked down Langford in the sixth round, many spectators felt Langford had won the bout.
Johnson had been fighting top heavyweights. Langford had been fighting at welterweight and weighed 156 for this fight. Later Johnson avoided Langford.
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Originally posted by The Hammer View PostThe only time they had fought, on April 26, 1906, ended in a fifteen-round decision.
Johnson was much taller and heavier than Langford, and though he knocked down Langford in the sixth round, many spectators felt Langford had won the bout.
Johnson had been fighting top heavyweights. Langford had been fighting at welterweight and weighed 156 for this fight. Later Johnson avoided Langford.
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostYour just typing what everyone knows...where are the NEW techniques you spoke about. As far as conditioning the fighters then were in far better "boxing shape" than the men today.
"cryogenic chambers" seriously this isn't basketball where you need to recover quickly. When you fight these days you have six full months to recover. Robinson might have taken advantage of this because he fought MONTHLY!
"your a nobody in boxing"......I was IN boxing, you on the other hand have never visited a gym. My gym name is still in existence today producing state, regional and national competitors and champions since 1969.
World Champions have come to me for prep work prior to title fights how many country have you boxed in?
What historical venues have you boxed in? Disney Land!
Quoting old statements from BoxRec and making believe you actually knew what happened then is a joke.
My mentors were outstanding men in the sport and they taught me well. If you want to actually talk Methods & Techniques then do it but don't BS about "new" techniques when you have no idea how to perform them and you damn sure can't teach them.
Ray
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