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Which is more drained? Canelo at 152 or Cotto at 145?

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  • #11
    I voted Canelo was more drained and hurt more by the 2 extra pounds he had to take off than Cotto was. When a world title is on the line no catchweights should be allowed or it isn't a true title fight at the proper traditional weight. If no title is on the line then the boxers can fight at any weight they both agree on and it's OK with me.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Luilun View Post
      I bet this 160 pound Canelo kills Floyd today . Floyd looked like a shot fighter against Connor
      I would also bet today's Canelo would kill today's Mayweather. Some fans seem to think time stood still from that day years ago when Mayweather schooled Canelo. Canelo has improved tremendously from that fight. Mayweather quite naturally has slowly but surely gotten slower and worse as all aging boxers do.I thought Mayweather looked slow, sloppy and terrible against Conor even if he carried him. The younger Mayweather could have carried Conor a few rounds without getting hit almost at all.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
        Obviously Canelo but I don't want to go down this route again.

        I will mention the Pac/Cotto fight and remind everyone that this was the first time Pac had fought for a ww championship, whereas Floyd had fought twice at the lmw limit against champions, so the cw was dirty as hell.
        "For a championship" I see you made sure to throw that disingenuous bull**** excuse out there. Manny fought Oscar at the full 147, he didn't need to fight Cotto at cw. He wanted the fight at 145 because he was the A side and it gave him an advantage. Basically the same reasons Floyd could bring Canelo down to 152. But sure, make excuses for Manny while Floyd is dirty as hell.

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        • #14
          I voted Cotto because I remember how painful the negotiations were for that fight. Cotto did not want the catch weight and was kicking and screaming the whole time. I remember Pac offering to pay the WBO sanctioning fees to try and get Cotto to take the fight. But then again every fighter that has fought Cotto says it’s like going to hell during negotiations so he could’ve been using the 2 lbs as leverage.

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          • #15
            History will remember Mayweather beat all three of them.

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            • #16
              Only a fool would hand pics to suit their agenda, gullible bunch of fanboys. 2lb must mean more to a smaller fighter than a larger fighter, pure logic which fanboys don't have.



              Even if the money could have been worked out, Cotto said the weight was a major issue.

              For the 2009 bout he had agreed to go down to 145 pounds, two less than the welterweight limit, and said it took its toll. If he had taken the rematch at 150, it would mean dropping 4 pounds below the junior middleweight limit, which is where Cotto has fought his four bouts since his loss to Pacquiao.

              "If he wants a big name and wants to fight the best, no catchweight," Cotto said of Pacquiao. "Making catchweights is easy for them. They make the other guy have trouble making weight and they take advantage of that. I wasn't going to do that again. I am 154 pounds. I am not going to fight at a catchweight and make myself weak."


              http://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/...rematch-boxing

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              • #17
                Canelo. Especially when you consider Cotto not fighting past 155, while Canelo has fought at 164 and even had to drain weight just to make that. Canelo is a naturally bigger guy than Cotto and he was always struggling to make 154.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                  Canelo clearly. Cotto was a natural at 147 but still always a little smaller than many opponents at that weight, but Canelo is more of a natural middleweight who was much bigger than his opponents at 154.

                  Both wins have * next to them but the Canelo one much more so.
                  152 was Canelo's idea.

                  If Floyd wanted to drain him...he would have slapped him with a rehydration clause.....that's how you drain somebody.

                  Canelo entered the ring fully rehydrated and ready to work.

                  It's funny.... he was drained...but he showed more stamina against Floyd.

                  Go figure.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by meme_man View Post
                    History will remember Mayweather beat all three of them.
                    History will also remember floyds calculated retirements and his cherry picking

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
                      2lbs is not that much of a differnece

                      You never have experienced it. It's not as easy as it sounds.

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