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  • JK1700
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    I still think Lara would've beaten Mayweather @ 154! However his stalled career is partly his fault. Lara vs. Andrade should've happened next week! I think it's time for Lara to move to 160 and fight Andrade, Jacobs, or Derevyanchenko, and put himself in position to face either Canelo or GGG!

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    • JK1700
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      #12
      Not a lot of time. He should have 1-2 more fights at 154 then move up.

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      • Kiowhatta
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        #13
        I can never quite understand or accept the widespread level of inactivity that is almost always blamed on managerial/promotional/contractual issues.

        But if your a born fighter with ants in his pants, I don't see how it could be the least bit ok to fight once a year in your prime. It just doesn't make sense for any party. The more fights, the more money and interest, not to mention momentum built.

        I can understand with the business and political divide amongst different companys might affect a fighters ability to get in the ring with a valid contract, as well as the meticulous match making required.

        But for a fight to be made, seriously, must it take anywhere up to 9 months? I recall Kostya Tszyu negotiating for that long to fight Gonsalez for the WBC Jr LW title back in around 2000, and Miguel Angel pulled out with two weeks to go leaving Diosbelys Hurtado to step in. NINE MONTHS! to sign a piece of paper ensuring the playing field is level and the minor showbiz details, not to mention the purse split.
        I'm sure this area of the boxing game desperately needs to be simplified and reformed, with a maximum of 3 months to negotiate or the relevant sanctioning body or commission steps in to complete the process, which would be binding.
        A modern-day top level fighter who stays in reasonable shape really only needs 6,8 or12 weeks to train and 1-2 weeks to recover (unless there's an injury).

        So 52 weeks of the year he/she trains for on average 6 months a year! So the rest of the time must be spent in negotiations, press tours, R&R and...

        I will never fully retire my grip on the frustration that results from negotiations. Like I've said before: Middle East peace treaties take less time.

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        • FLEX U.K
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          #14
          Originally posted by A.K
          He did beat the ginger but luck is for suckers when you have the judges
          No, "luck is for the mediocre my friend" lol!

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          • rickJen
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            #15
            He had plenty of time to look for meaningful opposition.
            Instead, he and Decubas spent all their time trying to lure green guys like Harrison, Hurd, then finally found Gausha.
            There was never any attempt at getting guys like Williams, Charlo, Andrade.

            It's all fine if they prefer to go in this direction, but for the love of the sport put him on the undercards.
            Why keep promoting a guy who has no desire of fighting tougher opponents that are readily available in his own backyard?
            He's never going to get the Cnelo rematch. That's a given.
            How can you replace these unmotivated aging guys with fighters like Charlo and Lubin if you keep putting them on the undercards?

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            • Boxfan83
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              #16
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              Whatever man

              He didn't run against Angulo , Trout , Ishe , Williams and most others

              He chose to use movement against Canelo because He has power and shown difficulty hanging with guys that can move he probably couldn't go the full 12 hanging with Alvarez similiAr to how Canelo probably couldn't hang with Gennady for 12 rounds.

              Both beat Canelo though
              Canelo did not move anywhere near as much as Lara did against him. And Canelo beat Lara if you are going to use the same thought process as to why Canelo lost to ggg.

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              • Boxfan83
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                #17
                Originally posted by JK1700
                [IMG]https://i.*****.com/media/JaCum1YPPioAE/*****.webp[/IMG]
                hahahahahaha

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #18
                  History tells us the average fighter who's 34 & still performing at a top ten level in boxing usually is on borrowed time. Then again there are freak show guys like Floyd, Klitschko + Bhop who fought vs top guys for years past that age, but they are in a tiny minority of guys who've done that.

                  Idk if anyone can say with any confidence that Lara is THAT type of freak show caliber guy or could be done at any time & just not have his body show up to a fight randomly. I suppose the odds of getting to 34 + still being at the level he's at were long as well so the odds of him going a year or two or three or more aren't as long as they'd be for most guys.

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                  • HarvardBlue
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                    #19
                    Lara will be forever known as the guy that got into a track meet with Canelo, got KD twice by an incredibly shot Angulo, and got a gift draw against Molina.

                    He's a really good fighter but never quite lived up to his talent. I don't see any top level fighter giving him a shot because there's no entertainment value in fighting him.

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                    • R_Walken
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83
                      Canelo did not move anywhere near as much as Lara did against him. And Canelo beat Lara if you are going to use the same thought process as to why Canelo lost to ggg.
                      Your right

                      Canelo spent allot of that fight straight moving backwards not even looking to engage. He was actually running away Oscar was probably proud of him as it brought back memories of him against Trinidad. Lara moved but never like that

                      People just use the narrative of he ran the whole fight because Canelo said that after the fight as a excuse why he couldn't do Sh.it to him and people just mimicked what he said.

                      Every fights different even if they use a similiAr strategy.

                      Canelo landed 1 meaningful head shot on Lara and was given credit for Blocked body shots. GGG was consistently using his jab and ram in it down Canelos throat

                      there is no way Canelo should have got anything but a L against Lara or Golovkin. But he's a pampered Mexican poster boy of the moment so he'll get every benifit of the doubt. Unfortunately you probably have to shoot Canelo dead in the ring to get a decision against the guy

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