Comments Thread For: Wilder vs. Stiverne Rematch Ordered By WBC, Luis Ortiz is Out!

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  • Butch.McRae
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    #71
    Originally posted by chepboxingking
    I wonder if Wilder will go forward and fight Steverne..does Steverne get to keeo the step-aside fee, PLUS the purse if he's fighting Wilder?

    Better yet, If Wilder finds another opponent, Let's say Whyte, and decides to pay Sterverne a Step-aside fee, Does Sterverne get the fee from both the Ortiz fight and Whyte? If so, he's clearly the winner in all of this.
    Pretty sure he doesn't get the step aside money now. And it wouldn't make any sense to pay extra money to Stiverne for a Whyte fight that wouldn't make any money stateside.

    It's smart to just get the mandatory out the way (at a lower cost), then see what's out there. Puts less pressure on the card to make money now. With Ortiz the gate would've probably been a minimum of 700k. Now? I'm guessing 300k if they're lucky.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #72
      great fight!

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      • McNulty
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        #73
        Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
        Luis Ortiz is a cheater. He has no one to blame but himself. You guys praise vada until one of your favorite fighters test positive then all of a sudden it’s a conspiracy theory
        HIs trainer filled out the VAD papwerwork that was in ENGLISH/FRENCH.

        Ortiz is innocent. Those drugs don't help Boxing performance. Do some fùcking research you fùcktard.

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        • Kigali
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          #74
          Originally posted by McNulty
          HIs trainer filled out the VAD papwerwork that was in ENGLISH/FRENCH.

          Ortiz is innocent. Those drugs don't help Boxing performance. Do some fùcking research you fùcktard.
          He's been busted before.

          The crap he took is a masking agent.

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          • whatismyname
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            #75
            Originally posted by DylanPatrick
            This statement is ridiculous, And I'm from the UK an no fan of wilders, with that said it's been Joshuas team/Camp making excuses about mandos been in the way. Wilder has been screaming for that fight for ages he did the same with fury.. lastly wilder hasn't once rejected a fight with Anthony.
            Joshua actually had/still have mandos in the way.. where as Wilder has still not fought anybody at all. Now I dont blame Wilder for the last few mishaps, but he'll have to take a big fight after Stiverne, as in Joshua/Parker. If anybody wbc's rankings are to blame.
            But do tell me, would Wilder not be obligated to face Stiverne after the Ortiz fight, had it happend?? Hence pushing back a unification even further??

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            • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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              #76
              Originally posted by McNulty
              HIs trainer filled out the VAD papwerwork that was in ENGLISH/FRENCH.

              Ortiz is innocent. Those drugs don't help Boxing performance. Do some fùcking research you fùcktard.
              It’s a masking agent you uneducated moron.

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              • Ray*
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                #77
                That’s phucked up.

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                • McNulty
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Kigali
                  He's been busted before.

                  The crap he took is a masking agent.
                  So what? He got caught prior with Deca which is a no brainer. Testosterone helps boxers.

                  This time he had a prescription for blood pressure medication which doesn't help boxers. Legit prescription. Its not a masking agent with 5 refills dude. Diuretics can mask urine samples, VADA takes blood samples as well.
                  Last edited by McNulty; 10-04-2017, 05:21 PM.

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                  • McNulty
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                    It’s a masking agent you uneducated moron.


                    Diuretics only mask urine samples your fùcking moron. VADA takes blood too, duiretics can't mask a blood fùcking samle you hillbilly fùcktard.
                    Last edited by McNulty; 10-04-2017, 05:20 PM.

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                    • Boxing lives
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                      #80
                      Wilder knew Ortiz was dirty. Said so himself. The HW scene is full of dopers. Throw in roided Kong with Breazeale fuck it

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