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  • travestyny
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    #441
    Originally posted by Shape up

    wada basically threw usada under the bus,


    it didn't matter in the long run anyway because if fluid was given a violation he wouldn't have to abide by wadas decision because the fight contract over ruled anything except the NSAC rules

    This moron thinks if Mayweather failed a drug test, USADA could say he passes, WADA doesn't step in to check USADA. The WADA Lab doesn't have to send the results to WADA, and Mayweather gets off free.

    YOU ****ING MORON. USADA WOULD BE IN VIOLATION AND WOULD BE SANCTIONED BY WADA BECAUSE THEY ARE BOUND TO FOLLOW WADA'S RULES BY VIRTUE OF BEING A SIGNATORY OF WADA, YOU ******ED WASTE OF BONE MARROW.

    You ARE AN IMBECILE.

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      #442
      By the way...

      Originally posted by ADP02
      Secondly, are you saying that plasticizers are extinct?
      As a matter of fact, for your purpose...yes! LMAOOOOO! Go read up about the plasticizer test, dummy

      IS THE PLASTICIZER TEST DEAD?

      Yes and no. As a primary means of identifying if an athlete has had a transfusion, or for instance used a prohibited IV, the test is as good as dead. There are too many questions about how a threshold would be determined (and its largely irrelevant as most manufactures are gradually moving towards DEHP free products). Do anti doping agencies still test for phthalates? This document would suggest so, but purely as a tool to lead to further analysis for either HBOCs (haemoglobin based oxygen carriers) or HBT (****logous blood transfusions).


      I've seen nothing about it EVER being used to find anyone using an IV. It was only for blood transfusions, and I told you that's because blood bags had to use it, but not IV bags.

      And by the way, USADA, according to what I could find, have only found 2 athletes in violation of it's IV rule in it's history. Guess what. Both of them declared that they used it themselves. No plasticizer test was used, you dummy. The one time it was used in the past, it didn't even stand up in court.

      Poor ADP02. He can't explain why USADA would document the IV and involve a bunch of people and organizations in a huge conspiracy instead of simply turning a blind eye to the IV use!!! Yep. USADA just liked to live on the edge like that, doe.LMAO.

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      • maracho
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        #443
        Originally posted by travestyny
        Now the head of a WADA laboratory needs to show you citations? Are you serious? You just are incapable of understanding what she is saying.
        Open any science book or journal and you see all real scientists use citations.

        You have to either be really naive or a conformist to think there could be no hanky panky among Olympic and/or boxing governing bodies

        Originally posted by travestyny
        Just because a T/E ratio doesn't look like what someone calls an average T/E ratio does NOT mean that it is abnormal. T/E fluctuates for many reasons. It fluctuates depending on time of the day, what activity the person was doing before the sample was taken, it fluctuates even with seasons, it fluctuates depending on the specific gravity of the sample. And it fluctuates greatly AMONGST INDIVIDUALS. WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK A LEVEL OF 4:1 OR ABOVE IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY CONSIDERED A FAILED TEST???? Do you understand now?
        Now you're just being silly to save face. There are normal testosterone fluctuation and then there are gaping perturbations. The normal testosterone ratio of a average white guy is 1:1 but a black athlete averages even higher. John Jone's t/e levels are often like 1:5 , which is on par to a transgender. Likewise, John Jones looks like a beast but has a testosterone levels down to .59 ng/ml, which is low for even a woman

        Originally posted by travestyny
        Ok. You seem to be in love with Conte. Take this. Here is Conte's take on all of it:
        That Conte quote came from the article you linked

        Originally posted by travestyny
        Um....CIR testing was done. I think you can shut up about Conte now. Obviously he was wrong. Clear enough for you?
        um..a majority of steroids have short half-lives

        Originally posted by travestyny
        How is anyone contradicting themselves? If anything, USADA is saying they use CIR testing and the ABP to make sure that cheating isn't done. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.
        Because in the very article that you provided, she dismissed the glaring fluctuations of Jones testosterone and counted on cir even though the drugs had time to leave his body. like I said, WADA's USADA claimed CIR testing was not sufficient by itself but if they really didn't want certain people to cheat they would of been using CIR all the time and not just when t/e ratios were above 4:1. Today they choose cir basically for whoever suits their bias
        Last edited by maracho; 10-16-2017, 10:43 PM.

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          #444
          Originally posted by maracho
          Open any science book or journal and you see all real scientists use citations.

          You have to either be really naive or a conformist to think there could be no hanky panky among Olympic and/or boxing governing bodies



          Now you're just being silly to save face. There are normal testosterone fluctuation and then there are gaping perturbations. The normal testosterone ratio of a average white guy is 1:1 but a black athlete averages even higher. John Jone's t/e levels are often like 1:5 , which is on par to a transgender. Likewise, John Jones looks like a beast but has a testosterone levels down to .59 ng/ml, which is low for even a woman



          That Conte quote came from the article you linked



          um..a majority of steroids have short half-lives



          Because in the very article that you provided, she dismissed the glaring fluctuations of Jones testosterone and counted on cir even though the drugs had time to leave his body. like I said, WADA's USADA claimed CIR testing was not sufficient by itself but if they really didn't want certain people to cheat they would of been using CIR all the time and not just when t/e ratios were above 4:1


          Are you smoking dope? Seriously. You are now trying to tell the head of a WADA lab how to do her job? And what the **** are you talking about it had time to get out of his body?

          They tested the samples he already gave, not a new sample.


          Jesus. Just give up.

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          • maracho
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            #445
            Originally posted by travestyny
            Are you smoking dope? Seriously. You are now trying to tell the head of a WADA lab how to do her job? And what the **** are you talking about it had time to get out of his body?

            They tested the samples he already gave, not a new sample.


            Jesus. Just give up.
            I explained to you about steroid Half Lives but you don't like to study
            Anything but what suits your bias

            Which is the very reason that Conte warns of Mayweather's waiting games

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              #446
              Originally posted by maracho
              I explained to you about steroid Half Lives but you don't like to study
              Anything but what suits your bias

              Which is the very reason that Conte warns of Mayweather's waiting games
              So what you’re saying is that WADA labs don’t know how to properly store samples. Is that it? WADA has top scientists but they don’t know anything about half lives. Is that what you are saying?

              Did you ever wonder how Lance Armstrong’s old samples failed when retested? Blows your mind, doesn’t it?

              Be my guest. Explain how half life affects a frozen urine sample that WADA says should be kept for 10 years for the possibility of retesting
              Last edited by travestyny; 10-17-2017, 12:14 AM.

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                #447
                Originally posted by travestyny
                So what you’re saying is that WADA labs don’t know how to properly store samples. Is that it? WADA has top scientists but they don’t know anything about half lives. Is that what you are saying?

                Did you ever wonder how Lance Armstrong’s old samples failed when retested? Blows your mind, doesn’t it?

                Be my guest. Explain how half life affects a frozen urine sample that WADA says should be kept for 10 years for the possibility of retesting
                According to USADA, samples from Armstrong taken in 2009 and 2010 are "fully consistent with blood manipulation including EPO use and/or blood transfusions".[67]

                That's called blood doping and is not from his steroid use, which were only indicated via testimonies like from teammates

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                  #448
                  Originally posted by maracho
                  According to USADA, samples from Armstrong taken in 2009 and 2010 are "fully consistent with blood manipulation including EPO use and/or blood transfusions".[67]

                  That's called blood doping and is not from his steroid use, which were only indicated via testimonies like from teammates
                  Are you trying to say that frozen samples can’t be retested for steroids?

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                  • Shape up
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                    #449
                    Originally posted by travestyny
                    This moron thinks if Mayweather failed a drug test, USADA could say he passes, WADA doesn't step in to check USADA. The WADA Lab doesn't have to send the results to WADA, and Mayweather gets off free.

                    YOU ****ING MORON. USADA WOULD BE IN VIOLATION AND WOULD BE SANCTIONED BY WADA BECAUSE THEY ARE BOUND TO FOLLOW WADA'S RULES BY VIRTUE OF BEING A SIGNATORY OF WADA, YOU ******ED WASTE OF BONE MARROW.

                    You ARE AN IMBECILE.
                    Explain to me where I said that gimp, was it WADA that said he could get a retro tue if it was monitored, WADA said that

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                    • Shape up
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                      #450
                      now you still haven't answered how this happened if usada wasn't corrupt. answer the questions you weak useless gimp
                      Last edited by Shape up; 10-17-2017, 01:55 AM.

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