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  • TheBigLug
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    #31
    Naseem gets a lot of flack because he lost a points decision to Barrera, like there's any shame in that.

    He beat some good fighters, he was entertaining, brought knockouts and got a lot of casuals interested in watching smaller fighters and resulting in them getting good paydays. What more do people want? not everyone can be an ATG.

    He had already stopped caring about boxing before that Barrera fight anyway. It's well documented he was barely training, started ballooning in weight between fights at that point for his size and did have wrecked hands. That's not to say he'd have beaten Barrera earlier, however Barrera did catch him at the right time regardless.

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    • TheBigLug
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      #32
      Originally posted by JK1700
      Flamboyance? I don't think fans care much for that.
      I think they do. Maybe not hardcore boxing fans, but the casual market probably does. I'd say Conor McGregor is somewhat flamboyant and look how popular he is worldwide. He isn't a boxer yet he has been involved in one of the biggest fights ever, and a big part of that was down to him and his personality, as well as his MMA career.

      There's a fine line though and Conor uses his personality in a way that attracts people. Some try to be Flamboyant and come across as insufferable to the point where most people dislike them.

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      • JK1700
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        #33
        Originally posted by TheBigLug
        I think they do. Maybe not hardcore boxing fans, but the casual market probably does. I'd say Conor McGregor is somewhat flamboyant and look how popular he is worldwide. He isn't a boxer yet he has been involved in one of the biggest fights ever, and a big part of that was down to him and his personality, as well as his MMA career.

        There's a fine line though and Conor uses his personality in a way that attracts people. Some try to be Flamboyant and come across as insufferable to the point where most people dislike them.
        Hmm, yes and no. It does attract a lot of people (who love and hate you) but boxing needs exciting fights at the top level a lot more than that. Of course you're totally right about McGregor, you need personality and charisma to become a big star. It also helps that he comes to fight and takes the big fights and wins. I feel like it's easier to become a big star in the UFC than in boxing though, there's less competition plus Dana White gets behind and pushes guys in the UFC. A lot of boxing promoters just let the fighters fight and don't get their names out there.

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        • alexguiness
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          #34
          Naz was never 'flamboyant'...

          He was just a smug, brash personailty who polariesed fans in the same way Floyd did.

          People watched him because they wanted him to lose.

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          • TheBigLug
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            #35
            Originally posted by JK1700
            I feel like it's easier to become a big star in the UFC than in boxing though, there's less competition plus Dana White gets behind and pushes guys in the UFC. A lot of boxing promoters just let the fighters fight and don't get their names out there.
            It also helps that UFC is one entity. Boxing would have more huge stars if everyone was pulling in the same direction it was under 1 umbrella but it's essentially the opposite of that. Everyone is against each other outside of the ring too.

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            • LetOutTheCage
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              #36
              Originally posted by E-Thug
              And he's a better fighter than any of the Jap bums we've seen over the past 20 years
              Please dont quote that idiot, id rather not have to see racist/****** stuff he writes.

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              • FLEX U.K
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheBigLug
                Naseem gets a lot of flack because he lost a points decision to Barrera, like there's any shame in that.

                He beat some good fighters, he was entertaining, brought knockouts and got a lot of casuals interested in watching smaller fighters and resulting in them getting good paydays. What more do people want? not everyone can be an ATG.

                He had already stopped caring about boxing before that Barrera fight anyway. It's well documented he was barely training, started ballooning in weight between fights at that point for his size and did have wrecked hands. That's not to say he'd have beaten Barrera earlier, however Barrera did catch him at the right time regardless.
                Spot on! Best post on this thread

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                • E-Thug
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                  Please dont quote that idiot, id rather not have to see racist/****** stuff he writes.
                  I skipped straight to page 4, the last page to see your reply so I haven't read his reply and I have no intention of goin back and reading his reply because the dude is a ****ing clown.

                  Where in the article does it say Islam? Or Allah? Or London cabbies? Or pot of gold? Or Christianity? Or religion? Or anything not relevant?

                  That dude is pushing 50 years old and he can't read for **** LMAO the article has nothing to do with anyone's religion yet he brings it in

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                  • LetOutTheCage
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by E-Thug
                    I skipped straight to page 4, the last page to see your reply so I haven't read his reply and I have no intention of goin back and reading his reply because the dude is a ****ing clown.

                    Where in the article does it say Islam? Or Allah? Or London cabbies? Or pot of gold? Or Christianity? Or religion? Or anything not relevant?

                    That dude is pushing 50 years old and he can't read for **** LMAO the article has nothing to do with anyone's religion yet he brings it in
                    I put him on ignore a while back along with a number of other idiots and trolls. I have found very few people on this boxing forum actually talk about boxing unfortunately

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                    • RyanjLarose
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                      #40
                      funny if someone retires before they go on to lose horribly they're a coward

                      if they keep fighting and losing and looking awful they "dont know when to quit ,tarnish their legacy blah blah blah"

                      god the people on this site are awful lol

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