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  • VatoMulatto
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    #11
    Who wants to watch a tournament that takes about 2 years to finish? That's why I never really liked Super 6.

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    • DrHouse579
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      #12
      This is why Gold medals mean so much. It's proof that you really are the best of the best.

      Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
      It's a logistical nightmare. Any tournament worth watching would be an absolute dogfight between Promoters.

      A decent tournament would have to play out over a decent length of time, getting fighters on board with that (and bypassing whatever plan they have in place) is hard enough. If there are titles involved, you'd have mandatories kicking up a stink because they aren't getting their rightful shot. You've got Promoters with existing network deals that may have to be bypassed to accommodate whatever agreements the tournament organizer have in place. You've got Fighters and Promoters who aren't interested in running any kind of gauntlet of fighters, and having no interest in letting someone else take another slice of the pie - because whoever is organizing it will want to take revenue. Unless it's done as a one-Org tournament, which significantly reduces the talent pool.

      I don't think the above points even cover half of it.
      Damn, well said!

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      • al-Xander
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        #13
        People are more into network/promoter fanaticism now.

        They stopped caring about anything. They're not even hard to please. Give them 2-3 meaningful fights a year and they'll say, "Who says boxing is dead?" They even get angry when you question why fighters now fight once a year.

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        • Beercules
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          #14
          Originally posted by JoeMan
          People are more into network/promoter fanaticism now.

          They stopped caring about anything. They're not even hard to please. Give them 2-3 meaningful fights a year and they'll say, "Who says boxing is dead?" They even get angry when you question why fighters now fight once a year.
          very accurate

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          • jmrf4435
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            #15
            Originally posted by JoeMan
            People are more into network/promoter fanaticism now.

            They stopped caring about anything. They're not even hard to please. Give them 2-3 meaningful fights a year and they'll say, "Who says boxing is dead?" They even get angry when you question why fighters now fight once a year.
            loool so true. Fans have been so taken advantage of we are content with the scraps given.. like a few decent fights a year.

            There is enough talent in boxing to have two huge events twice a month...

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              I don't like tournaments. They tie up many boxers and take too long to complete. 8 boxers in a tournament is 4 boxers too many. If the best would fight the best on their own no tournaments would be needed.In most or all weight classes we know who are the 4 best fighters. For instance at middleweight the top 4 are probably GGG, Canelo, Jermall and Jacobs. Just have Jacobs fight Jermall and the winner of that fight fights the winner of the Canelo vs GGG rematch. You will have the real middleweight champ at the end of 3 fights instead of an 8 man tournament that takes many fights an last over a year.

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              • Brandon121
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                #17
                Because too several fighters like obtaining paid a lot of cash to try to nothing however sit around and fight one time a year

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
                  It's a logistical nightmare. Any tournament worth watching would be an absolute dogfight between Promoters.

                  A decent tournament would have to play out over a decent length of time, getting fighters on board with that (and bypassing whatever plan they have in place) is hard enough. If there are titles involved, you'd have mandatories kicking up a stink because they aren't getting their rightful shot. You've got Promoters with existing network deals that may have to be bypassed to accommodate whatever agreements the tournament organizer have in place. You've got Fighters and Promoters who aren't interested in running any kind of gauntlet of fighters, and having no interest in letting someone else take another slice of the pie - because whoever is organizing it will want to take revenue. Unless it's done as a one-Org tournament, which significantly reduces the talent pool.

                  I don't think the above points even cover half of it.
                  This. Boxing is so divided it's hard to just set up 1 fight between 2 guys these days lol vs 3 fights between 4 guys or 7 fights between 8 guys. And then you gotta worry about injuries and bs like that that can prolong things.

                  Tournaments are great for team sports where an injury or three can mean little to nothing sometimes, but you get one boxer hurt and you might have to reconfigure your whole tournament and if a top guy has to opt out due to an injury without losing has the tournament reallllly decided anything?

                  I am curious to see how the wbss works out and I enjoy the attempts with tournaments boxing has done but idk that a top fighter tournament has worked out clean thus far and I'm sure with the 14 fights the wbss is putting together in a pre-planned schedule is gonna lend itself to problems done the line that will have cats talking about the wbss being unsatisfying for one reason or another too.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jmrf4435
                    Their the best for fans, if a deal can be made between promoters, i don't understand what the problem is with tournaments.
                    Because a deal can rarely be made between promoters.

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