Comments Thread For: Will Boxing Take a Stand (Or a Knee) on Anthem Protests?

[yankees7448]

You are speaking from your own perspective like how you feel. But the reality is America is the only country a foreigner can come in and they will root for the foreigner REGARDLESS of the foreigners or Americans fighting style.

And you're speaking from your own perspective because that is how you feel. But you're wrong. Fighting style plays a huge role. And if you can't see that then you're part of the problem.

Nothing wrong with Natiolalism don't even compare that to racism cut that out.

That's why I didn't say Nationalism I said Excessive Nationalism.

Don't try and make it seems like there is something wrong with backing your own country because America is the only place that doesn't back a section of their population. It boils down to SEVERE racism! FACTS!

There is nothing wrong with backing your own country. I said excessive nationalism is as much a problem as racism. Do you know who are amongst the most racist amongst us. The love it or leave it people. They are excessive nationalists and they are also racists. The two often go hand in hand. FACTS.

[yankees7448]

Do you want positive attention or negative?

Attention is always going to be a mixed bag. When people started chanting Black Lives Matter they were immediately challenged by people chanting Blue Lives Matter and All lives matter.

Publicity is the important thing because without it the conversation doesn't even get started. Its not the fault of these players that people who don't understand or care about why they are protesting are taking their protest the wrong way. But now that they are we have the opportunity to correct them. Whether they are willing to listen is another story.

[GGG Gloveking]

Attention is always going to be a mixed bag. When people started chanting Black Lives Matter they were immediately challenged by people chanting Blue Lives Matter and All lives matter.

Publicity is the important thing because without it the conversation doesn't even get started. Its not the fault of these players that people who don't understand or care about why they are protesting are taking their protest the wrong way. But now that they are we have the opportunity to correct them. Whether they are willing to listen is another story.

It doesn't seem like we're really talking about the issue at hand. The protest itself is getting more attention than the issue being protested. Hell, this year they're protesting Donald Trump more than anything else.

[yankees7448]

It doesn't seem like we're really talking about the issue at hand. The protest itself is getting more attention than the issue being protested. Hell, this year they're protesting Donald Trump more than anything else.

They are not the ones who made their act of protesting the issue as opposed to the reason for their protest. It was Donald Trump and his supporters. You can't complain about them protesting Trump when he is the one that called them sons of biitches who should be fired.

[GGG Gloveking]

They are not the ones who made their act of protesting the issue as opposed to the reason for their protest. It was Donald Trump and his supporters. You can't complain about them protesting Trump when he is the one that called them sons of biitches who should be fired.

When You say they, you mean the they from this year, right? The same they that saw the effects of disrespecting the flag, anthem, and our nation, and chose to Do the same anyways? It should have been pretty clear that trump was only speaking to those that choose to kneel, but the NFL in its asinine wisdom decided to make sure it applied to all of them.

I mean, we're protesting a tweet?!? Really...

[Kigali]

I don't think that's a fair assessment. Being displeased with the protest doesnt equal being displeased with the reasoning. I wouldn't have a problem with him protesting on his own time at the police station, or city hall, the white house, or anywhere relevant to the issue.

He is protesting on his own time in his own peaceful way.

[Kigali]

They are not the ones who made their act of protesting the issue as opposed to the reason for their protest. It was Donald Trump and his supporters. You can't complain about them protesting Trump when he is the one that called them sons of biitches who should be fired.

[yankees7448]

When You say they, you mean the they from this year, right? The same they that saw the effects of disrespecting the flag, anthem, and our nation, and chose to Do the same anyways? It should have been pretty clear that trump was only speaking to those that choose to kneel, but the NFL in its asinine wisdom decided to make sure it applied to all of them.

I mean, we're protesting a tweet?!? Really...

First of all, it wasn't a tweet. He said it live on stage. You can find the clip online if you take the time to google it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA44kzowy6w

As for the rest of what you said, no one is disrespecting the flag, the anthem or the nation. Repeating an incorrect statement doesn't make it correct. The critics of these players are hiding behind dead soldiers to silence the protest. By the by, are you really standing behind Trump on the issue of disrespecting the sacrifice of our soldiers. You do realize Trump, that mofo who had 5 deferrments from the draft, said John McCain wasn't a war hero because he got captured right? And you're pointing to that guy as the defender of our soldiers honor?

[GGG Gloveking]

First of all, it wasn't a tweet. He said it live on stage. You can find the clip online if you take the time to google it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA44kzowy6w

As for the rest of what you said, no one is disrespecting the flag, the anthem or the nation. Repeating an incorrect statement doesn't make it correct. The critics of these players are hiding behind dead soldiers to silence the protest. By the by, are you really standing behind Trump on the issue of disrespecting the sacrifice of our soldiers. You do realize Trump, that mofo who had 5 deferrments from the draft, said John McCain wasn't a war hero because he got captured right? And you're pointing to that guy as the defender of our soldiers honor?

First of all, it was a tweet. He may have said it live, sorry I don't watch too much C-Span these days, but he also tweeted the same message of (not verbatim) respect our flag...OR YOU'RE FIRED. He tweeted that on Sept 23 and another similar message on Sept 25 talking about NASCAR standing. Nonetheless, the NFL is protesting a comment made by Donald Trump. It's not about inequality, racism, police brutality or anything substantive at this point. It's about a comment and a tweet. Great protest.

I personally do think it's disrespectful not to stand with America during the anthem. To me, it's not as much about some dead soldiers, but about the 350 million or however many, of us that are alive in this country. We'll never get anywhere if we can't stand together.

[yankees7448]

First of all, it was a tweet. He may have said it live, sorry I don't watch too much C-Span these days, but he also tweeted the same message of (not verbatim) respect our flag...OR YOU'RE FIRED.

You don't need to watch C-Span. I posted the fuucking youtube link.

Nonetheless, the NFL is protesting a comment made by Donald Trump. It's not about inequality, racism, police brutality or anything substantive at this point. It's about a comment and a tweet. Great protest.

This response illustrates that the whole point of the protest went right over your head. The protests that following Sunday were to show solidarity to the people who Trump insulted and to show Trump they would not be bullied. Was it a protest against Trump yes. But it was only a protest against Trump that Sunday. One protest does not define a protest that started long before Trump ever became President.

And for fuuck's sake. Why are you ok with a draft dodging coward who degrades the service of an actual war hero being the standard bearer for protecting our soldiers honor.

I personally do think it's disrespectful not to stand with America during the anthem. To me, it's not as much about some dead soldiers, but about the 350 million or however many, of us that are alive in this country. We'll never get anywhere if we can't stand together.

You have the right to your opinion. You're wrong and don't seem to understand the real motivation behind the protest but you have the right to your opinion. Personally, I think people who ignore the message of the protests because they are so caught up with how the message is being sent are the real reason why this country cannot stand together.