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  • #21
    The Ortiz situation here is different. The HCTZ portion (the diuretic) of Losartan/HCTZ is available on it's own if he wanted to simply use a diuretic to flush his urine. If he didn't really need BP med's there would have been no reason to take the combo drug (Losartan/HCTZ) needlessly. The Losartan portion of the drug is not banned and is not a problem. In any event flushing the urine with a diuretic may help pass a urine test but not a blood test...and he did not test positive for any PED's. He has been placed on this med by 3 Dr's...the 1st one being in the ER so obviously he needs it. He might have gotten a TUE but things were not handled in his best interests. Nothing really points to him cheating...just poorly handled.

    Maybe they didn't want it to get out that he needs the BP meds..that it might embolden Wilder and thought it would fly under the radar? But until they find PED's in his system he's not dirty.
    Last edited by jaded; 09-30-2017, 11:31 PM.

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    • #22
      Idk that there is a reason for it unless you live in crazytown & assume guys are legit scared of Wilder or you think Wilder is on the USADA + VADA piss & blood collection team or something. Just a odd ass coincidence. I can't recall another guy that had 3 potential opponents caught up in banned substances in such a short period (18mos) of time. Might be other guys, but I'd be shocked if there were THAT many more.

      Although get used to it cuz the more we lay in limbo with PED bs the most likely this is to happen & maybe someone will soon beat Wilder's opponents numbers til boxing as a sport makes harder line decisions on PEDs/banned substances across the board & universally. Like boxing needs a PED/banned substance summit or something with major players among commissions, networks, abc groups, boxers, promoters, managers & pundits among others & decide what they really wanna do with this PED/banned substance sh^t.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by jaded View Post
        The Ortiz situation here is different. The HCTZ portion (the diuretic) of Losartan/HCTZ is available on it's own if he wanted to simply use a diuretic to flush his urine. If he didn't really need BP med's there would have been no reason to take the combo drug (Losartan/HCTZ) needlessly. The Losartan portion of the drug is not banned and is not a problem. In any event flushing the urine with a diuretic may help pass a urine test but not a blood test...and he did not test positive for any PED's. He has been placed on this med by 3 Dr's...the 1st one being in the ER so obviously he needs it. He might have gotten a TUE but things were not handled in his best interests. Nothing really points to him cheating...just poorly handled.

        Maybe they didn't want it to get out that he needs the BP meds..that it might embolden Wilder and thought it would fly under the radar? But until they find PED's in his system he's not dirty.
        All that would mean something if Ortiz hasn't been busted before.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          It's obvious why. Wilder must have injected them himself and/or paid off VADA.
          haymon paid off VADA so wilder can look fearless against povetkin and Ortiz but not fight them then tried to get paid in full for NOT fighting povetkin

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          • #25
            Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post
            haymon paid off VADA so wilder can look fearless against povetkin and Ortiz but not fight them then tried to get paid in full for NOT fighting povetkin
            What happened to all that Russian money?

            You mean to tell me Al has the deeper pockets?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Deontay Wilder View Post
              They some Johnny Nelsons, bitch-made fighters running they mouth and running away from fights.

              But I don't play boxing. I take it serious. We here to clean up the sport.

              It's one champion, one face, one name: Deontay The Bronze Bomber.
              Tell them champ!

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              • #27
                Three answers:

                1. Wilder holds a title requires testing from the most stringent and ruthless of the testing bodies.

                2. EErrrybody scurred of Wilder... doe

                3. Wilder/Haymon is paying VADA to purposefully fail tests of any difficult fight Wilder has. The Illuminati may be involved.

                Obviously boxingscene has gravitated towards the two of those answers that make very little sense.

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                • #28
                  Because they're stupid cvnts who think whatever they're taking won't be detected.

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                  • #29
                    Same reason Povetkin failed against Stiverne

                    and the same reason Ortiz failed against Kayode.

                    Pure fear. Killers like Stiverne, Wilder and Kayode, you need that extra juice.

                    That, or they are just habitual cheaters.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by iamboxing View Post
                      Because they're stupid cvnts who think whatever they're taking won't be detected.
                      You gotta' be something more than stupid to take PEDs in the first place.

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