Andre Ward's resume have become overrated??

[DinoCop]

I liked Ward until the low blow robbery and the lies he told afterwards....

[boliodogs]

You don't have to beat all time greats to have a great resume. Never losing a fight and beating lots of excellent fighters will do the trick.

[Larry the boss]

there are a lot of *'s on his opponents and the fact he cried so hard about moving up taints his body of work.

Dawson came down in weight, three fighters have done that in history (to win a title).

Abraham was an overblown middleweight.

Green was damaged goods.

Bika loses to everybody.

Froch is b-level.

Kovaquit never fought anybody but an old man hopkins who was bound to lose to youth eventually and a blown up pascal that got run straight out of 168.

Kesser and rodriguez would have been good wins if ward didn't fight so dirty.

He did it to himself --- now he pays.

ok and who is beating better fighters now?

[Metho_4u]

still waiting................

Hopkins has imo, Tito, oscar, Jones (old and shot, but still). I don't know if Tito or Oscar will be true ATGs in the same sense as Floyd and Manny.

[Metho_4u]

I liked Ward until the low blow robbery and the lies he told afterwards....

Oh just stop with that puzzy whining

[McNulty]

ok and who is beating better fighters now?

Are you asking about who's beating better fighters at 168 or elsewhere?

Historically, 168 is one of those transient divisions thats dead for the most part. Look at when Calzaghe was doing his thing. He doesn't have any notable names that aren't old and out of their prime that are on his record.

If we're talking about different divisions, I can name a few that are on their way?

It should be noted that Ward has been pro 13-14 years (with only has 32 wins) so it's pretty hard to find a fighter that has as many names on their record as Ward does.

Even though there are a few *'s n Thurmans resume as well, I think his level of opposition is approaching Wards. Quintana and Collazo have *'s. But he's also beaten Danny Garcia (undefeated), Shawn Porter, Guerrro, Karass and an undefeated but untested Chavez by TKO. He doesn't figh dirty.

Spence hasn't fought anybody of note yet besides Brook who has an * as well), but I think my eye is telling me Spence is destined for greatness. He doesn't figh dirty.

Even though I think Canelo lost, his opposition is absolutely better than Wards. Cotto (both), Trout (undefeated), Angulo, Lara*, Kirkland, Khan*, Chavez*. Did I mention he doesn't figh dirty?

Almost every single one of his wins is tainted by fighting dirty unnecessarily. I like Ward as a boxer, but as a fighter --- dude is Dirt McGirt. The guys mentioned above haven't been pro as long and are very active whereas Ward was very inactive. He should be fighting Stevenson straight up. He's robbing us from a great fight.

He can bítch about the money, but everybody and their mother knows Roc Nation lost money on him. How can he expect to get those purses consistently is ******ed. He's not worth those purses. He's like on a Rigondeaux level regarding the public. The audience wants excitement and his SOG shít has always hurt him. Boxing is modern times is a two-fold path. You need skill, and a mouth --- the end. He's only got 50% of that package.