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  • #11
    If Wilder was a punk he surly would have chosen Parker instead or Ortiz, that's a belt fight with money. Wilder shows he's the ONLY guy out there who's not afraid to put his belt on the line against Ortiz. Nobody was giving Ortiz a shot

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    • #12
      I've said it before and I'll say it again. Wilder is the most dangerous belt holding heavyweight out there. He is the most powerful, no doubt about it. He throws his shots like Mike Tyson did in his prime with bad intentions. And he may have the best chin out of the belt holders from what I've seen. He isn't the best boxer but neither was George foreman back in the day. Wilder is dangerous and he can beat the beast in the world on any given night

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
        Spoken with the confidence of someone fighting a 40-year-old opponent under year-round VADA testing who he knows was only elite back when he was fighting without year-round VADA testing and was closer to 35-years-old than 40...

        Everyone on the outside only looks at the names. "Oh my Gawd! Luis Ortiz! Wilder is ****ed!" But Wilder, and his adviser Al Haymon, are on the inside. They know things that we don't. And I'd venture a wild guess, Deontay Wilder is confident for a reason.

        When it came to fighting the Klitschkos during their primes, Wilder or his team wanted zero part. He never spoke with confidence about fighting them, or called them out. Team Wilder tried to stay hidden in the corner, and stay quiet, so no one would even think to ask why he wasn't fighting them. Even Alexander Povetkin, Wilder stayed quiet about for years. Povetkin had to work his way to Wilder's mandatory position, and even then, Wilder or his team delayed the fight, and then eventually got it canceled over legal amounts of meldonium in a very su****ious, weird situation that took place only a week or two after Showtime signed Anthoyn Joshua.

        And yet here, Deontay Wilder went out of his way to make this fight with Luis Ortiz. And now that it's signed, you see Wilder more confident than he's ever been, despite signing to fight, supposedly, the most difficult opponent of his career. So again, it's just a wild guess, but I have a feeling he knows something, or may be Al Haymon told him something, that fans, i.e. "outsiders," don't know...

        In other words, think twice before putting your money on Luis Ortiz... and more than that, maybe think twice about inviting your friends over telling them this will be an amazing fight between "two top heavyweights"... To the outsider just looking at the names involved, it would seem to be a fight between two top 10 heavyweights, but for all the things people say about Deontay Wilder's adviser Al Haymon, there are two things very few people would ever accuse Al Haymon of being: he is not an outsider, and he is not a dummy. And with all the money to be made off Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder next year, there is no way Wilder would be fighting Ortiz if Haymon saw Ortiz as even one-tenth the threat to Wilder that outsider fans do.....
        Agreed! Wilder fanboys should have this comment tattoed on their foreheads.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
          Does that mean you are picking Wilder to beat Ortiz?
          No but I don't think Ortiz can beat wilder anymore. He's too old now and too slow. Had they fought even a year and half ago I would of said Ortiz beats wilder. But not now. But that's okay. Joshua is waiting to beat his ass next summer!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Heromaker View Post
            I've said it before and I'll say it again. Wilder is the most dangerous belt holding heavyweight out there. He is the most powerful, no doubt about it. He throws his shots like Mike Tyson did in his prime with bad intentions. And he may have the best chin out of the belt holders from what I've seen. He isn't the best boxer but neither was George foreman back in the day. Wilder is dangerous and he can beat the beast in the world on any given night
            I can assure you that he doesn't have the best chin. He can punch and has an Olympic pedigree but I wouldn't rate his chin as one of the best.

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            • #16
              Close fight imo

              Ortiz has very good hands , is more fleet of foot than many of wilders past opponents, very accurate, good defence. But is too left hand happy .

              Wilder sometimes pulls out with his hands down and chin up in the air. He has good but not amazing footwork but did a good job vs stiverene in controlling the distance with his jab. Has the most raw power of any heavyweight. And actually has some really nice uppercuts on the inside for such a tall fighter.

              Ortiz has good reach and is the better co-ordinated fighter on the outside imo. I think ortiz wins by ko.

              Very bad opponent choice from a business perspective given how dangerous the fight is for wilder and ortiz' age and how unmarketable he is. Reminds me of when schaefar made broner vs maidana. But im not complaining, its a great fight from a fans perspective.

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              • #17
                I'll admit, that's a pretty funny line

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                  Spoken with the confidence of someone fighting a 40-year-old opponent under year-round VADA testing who he knows was only elite back when he was fighting without year-round VADA testing and was closer to 35-years-old than 40...

                  Everyone on the outside only looks at the names. "Oh my Gawd! Luis Ortiz! Wilder is ****ed!" But Wilder, and his adviser Al Haymon, are on the inside. They know things that we don't. And I'd venture a wild guess, Deontay Wilder is confident for a reason.

                  When it came to fighting the Klitschkos during their primes, Wilder or his team wanted zero part. He never spoke with confidence about fighting them, or called them out. Team Wilder tried to stay hidden in the corner, and stay quiet, so no one would even think to ask why he wasn't fighting them. Even Alexander Povetkin, Wilder stayed quiet about for years. Povetkin had to work his way to Wilder's mandatory position, and even then, Wilder or his team delayed the fight, and then eventually got it canceled over legal amounts of meldonium in a very su****ious, weird situation that took place only a week or two after Showtime signed Anthoyn Joshua.

                  And yet here, Deontay Wilder went out of his way to make this fight with Luis Ortiz. And now that it's signed, you see Wilder more confident than he's ever been, despite signing to fight, supposedly, the most difficult opponent of his career. So again, it's just a wild guess, but I have a feeling he knows something, or may be Al Haymon told him something, that fans, i.e. "outsiders," don't know...

                  In other words, think twice before putting your money on Luis Ortiz... and more than that, maybe think twice about inviting your friends over telling them this will be an amazing fight between "two top heavyweights"... To the outsider just looking at the names involved, it would seem to be a fight between two top 10 heavyweights, but for all the things people say about Deontay Wilder's adviser Al Haymon, there are two things very few people would ever accuse Al Haymon of being: he is not an outsider, and he is not a dummy. And with all the money to be made off Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder next year, there is no way Wilder would be fighting Ortiz if Haymon saw Ortiz as even one-tenth the threat to Wilder that outsider fans do.....
                  So why did Haymon agree to Wilder fighting Povetkin???. If Wilders a chinny uncoordinated bum why the hell is him vs AJ a 'Super fight'?.

                  This is one ****ed up generation. Sometimes I think what's the point of Boxers facing off because as soon as Boxer A or B receives a loss or fights in a style deemed negative or underwhelms they're a bum. ******.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
                    So why did Haymon agree to Wilder fighting Povetkin???. If Wilders a chinny uncoordinated bum why the hell is him vs AJ a 'Super fight'?.

                    This is one ****ed up generation. Sometimes I think what's the point of Boxers facing off because as soon as Boxer A or B receives a loss or fights in a style deemed negative or underwhelms they're a bum. ******.
                    Povetkin was Wilder mandatory , Haymon had no say in it . Haymons ultimate goal is to get Wilder to a Joshua fight for more $$$ than he could or will generate with Wilder . Im surprised myself the Ortiz fight is taking place bc we all know who Haymon wants in this one .

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                      Spoken with the confidence of someone fighting a 40-year-old opponent under year-round VADA testing who he knows was only elite back when he was fighting without year-round VADA testing and was closer to 35-years-old than 40...

                      Everyone on the outside only looks at the names. "Oh my Gawd! Luis Ortiz! Wilder is ****ed!" But Wilder, and his adviser Al Haymon, are on the inside. They know things that we don't. And I'd venture a wild guess, Deontay Wilder is confident for a reason.

                      When it came to fighting the Klitschkos during their primes, Wilder or his team wanted zero part. He never spoke with confidence about fighting them, or called them out. Team Wilder tried to stay hidden in the corner, and stay quiet, so no one would even think to ask why he wasn't fighting them. Even Alexander Povetkin, Wilder stayed quiet about for years. Povetkin had to work his way to Wilder's mandatory position, and even then, Wilder or his team delayed the fight, and then eventually got it canceled over legal amounts of meldonium in a very su****ious, weird situation that took place only a week or two after Showtime signed Anthoyn Joshua.

                      And yet here, Deontay Wilder went out of his way to make this fight with Luis Ortiz. And now that it's signed, you see Wilder more confident than he's ever been, despite signing to fight, supposedly, the most difficult opponent of his career. So again, it's just a wild guess, but I have a feeling he knows something, or may be Al Haymon told him something, that fans, i.e. "outsiders," don't know...

                      In other words, think twice before putting your money on Luis Ortiz... and more than that, maybe think twice about inviting your friends over telling them this will be an amazing fight between "two top heavyweights"... To the outsider just looking at the names involved, it would seem to be a fight between two top 10 heavyweights, but for all the things people say about Deontay Wilder's adviser Al Haymon, there are two things very few people would ever accuse Al Haymon of being: he is not an outsider, and he is not a dummy. And with all the money to be made off Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder next year, there is no way Wilder would be fighting Ortiz if Haymon saw Ortiz as even one-tenth the threat to Wilder that outsider fans do.....

                      We got some Wilder hate boy in here. Gtfo dumba$$

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