Straight up and down. No special effects.

[IMDAZED]

He looked better than the first you mean since many predicted that JMM predicted he was going to comfortably out box Manny and cruise to a new easy decision because of what he learned from the first. It was the right hook that made the difference there. He needed only 1 KD to seal the decision.

In the second fight? No, Pacquiao was a prohibitive favorite.

[stealthradon]

Look at the length GGGaholics have to go to convince themselves their guy deserved the draw.

Ca$h won fairly easily tbh. I had it 8-4 and it could've been 9-3, but 10-2 was wrong. It should've been 11-1.

Ca$hnelo gettin in stealthradon @SS

Yeah, not doing anything and missing more than GGG, means you won a round, because you landed 4 big shots during the entire fight. Great stuff.

[Floyd is TBE]

The most gifted fighter in history of boxing is Wladimir Klitschko. Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr could never hope to beat Wladimir Klitschko (the true gifted fighter).

Is this sarcasm or not? Hard to tell on the e-net

[JK1700]

Consistency of the Jab is different from predicting where Manny is going to be and what he is going to do in next 3 seconds. Floyd's range and Jab was enough to beat him. But not in a way he "predicted" where Manny's punches is. Marquez countering with a right hand because of knowing Manny is going to feint to KO him I is what predicting the opponents move is.

Because if we go by your logic. GGG figured Canelo out by knowing Canelos counters and what he would do, where his movements are and dropped Canelos accuracy rate by a half.

I'm not going to reply for awhile since I'll be sleeping.

Nice conversation by the way mate. I want to give a Green K but can't since I'm on the phone

I think it was both things, but you're right in that Floyd had a better jab than JMM so his strategy was more geared towards that while Juan used more positioning, countering and right hands. I don't think either guy figured out the other in Canelo-GGG, but I think Canelo learned more from that fight than GGG did which is why i'm picking him in the rematch. That, and that he can just do more things.

No problem mate. I'll send you some tomorrow.

[RussB23]

Couldn't land shots on big slow Canelo. Can we admit Floyd was right? With his limited skills 97G could never beat fighters as gifted as Andre Ward or Floyd Mayweather.

Isnt ward mr 93k?

[Floyd is TBE]

Isnt ward mr 93k?

No one ever accused Ward of being a draw. I just like bringing up the 97K because GGG fanboys would not shut the **** up about him selling out MSG when the average tickets were cheap as ****.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Is this sarcasm or not? Hard to tell on the e-net

No, it isn't. Not only is Wladimir Klitschko more skilled than these little small ******* who aren't willing to challenge themselves in the real, most challenging and most prestigious weight division in boxing which is heavyweight, but those dudes lack the boxing skills, class, elegance and all round sportsmanship to hold the legendary Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko's jockstrap.

I challenge you say to me that Ward or Mayweather are more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko. Go on! I dare you!

[Floyd is TBE]

No, it isn't. Not only is Wladimir Klitschko more skilled than these little small ******* who aren't willing to challenge themselves in the real, most challenging and most prestigious weight division in boxing which is heavyweight, but those dudes lack the boxing skills, class, elegance and all round sportsmanship to hold the legendary Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko's jockstrap.

I challenge you say to me that Ward or Mayweather are more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko. Go on! I dare you!

Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather are more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather are more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko.

Wladimir Klitschko = can demolish and borderline kill his opponents whilst winning by mainly stoppages whilst barely even getting touched by his opponents using 3 main simple moves.

Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr = have to use more moves, but still get hit more, plus still aren't able to inflict anywhere near as much damage as Wladimir Klitschko can inflict on his opponents.

In other words, Wladimir Klitschko is better defensively + offensively than both Ward and Mayweather combined.

In other words, Wladimir Klitschko's jab > every single move both Ward and Mayweather can perform in boxing.

[boliodogs]

Couldn't land shots on big slow Canelo. Can we admit Floyd was right? With his limited skills 97G could never beat fighters as gifted as Andre Ward or Floyd Mayweather.

The posters who admit that are guys who already loved Mayweather and hated GGG long before he fought Canelo. You hate him so much you made up your own name of 97G to call him. GGG landed more punches than Canelo in ten of the 12 rounds. Canelo landed more punches in only one round. Canelo's hands are lightning fast. He is ten times the fighter he was when he fought Mayweather at the 152 pound catchweight. Can you admit that Mayweather looked like garbage against Conor. He had to come from behind to beat an MMA guy FFS. He was slow, sloppy, missed a bunch of punches and only threw about 20 punches a round. Either Canelo or GGG would have KOed Conor in one round with ease. Mayweather was challenged by GGG to defend his 154 pound world titles against GGG at 154. Mayweather declined. Smart move because GGG would have crushed him, Kovalev beat Ward the first time in the eyes of the majority. It's quite possible GGG would also have defeated Ward. Hell no, I won't give Mayweather and Ward credit for a win over GGG. I give credit to boxers for what they actually do not for what some of their most devoted fans claim they could do. Ward almost got KOed by a guy named Boone who had lost more fights than he won. There is no reason an undefeated KO artist like GGG couldn't knock him out. I am not saying he would beat Ward but neither Ward nor Mayweather gets a win from me for a fight they never fought.