Who do the soviet bloc boxers usually have better jabs than American boxers?

[Sledgeweather17]

Against Wladimir Klitschko's jab, inside fighting, head movement, adjustments, adaptability, body work, counter punching and changing looks is practically useless and pointless. It is HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE to get past a peak Wladimir Klitschko's jab. Especially if one is shorter than 6 feet 4 inches in height.

In other words, Wladimir Klitschko's jab alone >>>>>>> body punching, adaptability, counter punching, look changing, inside fighting and etc. of boxers like Floyd Mayweather Jr and Andre Ward.

Sergey Kovalev is one of the worst out of the Soviet Bloc bunch. Yet, he still had a far superior jab to Andre Ward.

Oleksandr Usyk is anything but robotic. He is the closest thing to Vasyl Lomachenko stylistically. Both very similar boxers.

Prime, 26 year old Wlad was KTFO by an old, 37 year old, out of shape South African (Courie Saunders) by launching counter straight lefts over that jab you're hyping up.

[Sledgeweather17]

Go back and see who was initiating 90% of the clinches.

Yeah, Kovalev initiated over 90 percent of them. Ward was the one tryna fight on the inside and Kovalev was clinching the life out of him to prevent inside fighting.

Anyone who knows anything about boxing, and actually watched the fight critically would have seen this. Kovalev's who game plan revolved around clinching the life out of Ward everytime Ward got passed his jab.

Unfortunately has gassed very quickly and Ward started breaking those clinches easier and easier as the fight went on, which is why Kovalev got nailed so much on the inside in the second half of the fight.

[charliepaerker]

Against Wladimir Klitschko's jab, inside fighting, head movement, adjustments, adaptability, body work, counter punching and changing looks is practically useless and pointless. It is HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE to get past a peak Wladimir Klitschko's jab. Especially if one is shorter than 6 feet 4 inches in height.

In other words, Wladimir Klitschko's jab alone >>>>>>> body punching, adaptability, counter punching, look changing, inside fighting and etc. of boxers like Floyd Mayweather Jr and Andre Ward.

Sergey Kovalev is one of the worst out of the Soviet Bloc bunch. Yet, he still had a far superior jab to Andre Ward.

Oleksandr Usyk is anything but robotic. He is the closest thing to Vasyl Lomachenko stylistically. Both very similar boxers.

Why were Andre and Floyd able to use all these things to beat countless world champions? While Wlads jab was neutralized by Corey Sanders, Brewster, Fury, Joshua and to an extent Sam Peters?

[Mr Objecitivity]

OK, why did his jab fail against a guy his size? Didn't Tyson Fury use unpredictable movement, counterpunching, and feinting to beat Vlad? And don't say he was old because a jab doesn't disappear with age.. just look at GGG @35 and how Vlad did against Joshua..

Actually, age does matter because when boxers age, they lose their mental sharpness, reflexes and physical abilities. Fact is, pretty much no boxer at age 39+ went unbeaten in any division whilst fighting top quality opposition. What does that indicate? It indicates that when two boxers are of the same caliber, age does matter!

So Wladimir Klitschko's performance against Fury is irrelevant because I was referring to a peak Wladimir Klitschko. Wlad wasn't at his peak against Fury.

Wladimir Klitschko has already proved he can out-jab opponents his own size or even bigger. See his fights against Jameel Mccline, Tony Thompson and etc for proof.

[Mr Objecitivity]

They outjabbed the greatest of jabbers what great jabber did Wladimir or GGG ever outjab? Wladimir was getting outjabbed by Pulev he was also outjabbed by Fury and even possibly Joshua
Everytime he fought someone with a decent jab he was outjabbed.
Holmes, Ali and the likes were far more versatile with their jabs

Liston, Foreman are among the hardest jabbers in boxing history I believe the latter even knocked out and certainly knocked down a bag of opponents with the jab.

Check the statistics! Wladimir Klitschko using his jab alone, has one of the best defensive stats in heavyweight boxing history, plus has one of the highest percentage of jabs landed in heavyweight boxing history, plus has one of the highest amount of jabs landed in heavyweight boxing history.

Wladimir Klitschko was never out-jabbed by anybody, except Tyson Fury whilst at the age of 39 and whilst over 10 years older than Fury. However, that's irrelevant because Wladimir Klitschko was no longer in his prime against Fury. My point was purely about a prime / peak version of Wladimir Klitschko

[Mr Objecitivity]

Yet he was outjabbed by Pulev, Tyson Fury and maybe even Joshua. None of which will be remembered as a great jabber.

Name me one boxer, at age 39 who was winning all of his fights against top quality opposition in any weight division, especially at heavyweight. The likes of Ali and Larry Holmes started losing to lesser boxers than Tyson Fury, well before they reached Wladimir Klitschko's age when he lost to Tyson Fury. The effectiveness of Wlad's jab decreased in those fights compared to how it was during his prime.

Wladimir Klitschko during and after the Pulev fight was out of his peak. My point was purely a peak / prime Wladimir Klitschko.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Pretty sure Floyd Mayweather, Errol Spence, Andre Ward, and Jermall Charlo each have better jabs than all of those fools combined.

Wladimir Klitschko is called 'one dimensional' with no head movement, body punching, combinations, uppercuts and inside fighting. Yet, the fact that he has dominated the heavyweight division unlike anybody else has in the past with just his jab alone, means that his jab has to be better than all of those fools combined.

Why does Floyd Mayweather Jr need to do all those other things if his jab was so good? Same applies for Errol Spence and Jermall Charlo?

Wladimir Klitschko with his jab alone, gets hit less than any of those fools, plus has the ability to inflict far greater damage on his opponents whilst taking less relative to those aforementioned fools. That is, with just his jab and his 'LIMITED' style.

Yet, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Errol Spence Jr and Charlo with all of their completeness and versatility compared to Wlad, still get hit more and still aren't anywhere near as good as Wlad offensively.

Let that sink in!

[Mr Objecitivity]

Is that why Charlo has the highest number of jab knock downs in the sport?

Is that why Spence caved Brook's eye socket in with his jab alone?

Coz Americans have weak pathetic jabs?

Nice feats, but doesn't compare in quality to Wladimir Klitshcko's jabs or Golovkin's jabs.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Prime, 26 year old Wlad was KTFO by an old, 37 year old, out of shape South African (Courie Saunders) by launching counter straight lefts over that jab you're hyping up.

It's heavyweight boxing! One punch could change things. Howe ever, Corrie Sanders match was an exception and not the rule. One match doesn't take away a boxer's entire career and there were specific circumstances in that fight which was the cause of Corrie Sanders winning.

However, Corrie Sanders couldn't deal with Wlad's jab. It was due to onean anvil-ling headbutt, in addition to a few punches that Corrie Sanders landed which Wlad couldn't recover from. Prior to that, Wlad dominated Sanders with his jab.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Why were Andre and Floyd able to use all these things to beat countless world champions? While Wlads jab was neutralized by Corey Sanders, Brewster, Fury, Joshua and to an extent Sam Peters?

Whilst Wladimir Klitschko with his jab alone, achieved more feats than Ward or Floyd did using more 'MOVES' or 'TACTICS'.

The ONLY time Wlad's jab was neutralized, was against Fury, where he was close to 40 years of age against an opponent that is over 10 years younger, whilst Wlad was significantly past his peak. None of those other boxers neutralized Wlad's jab.