Terence Crawford does not have a better resume than LOMA!

[Xi_]

Lmao....yes he does.....lomoa has an L that he hasn't avenged

[McNulty]

SNIP

Who's the girl in your AV?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Gamboa beat Salido, Loma didn't.

/End Discussion

[HarvardBlue]

Who's the girl in your AV?

I honestly don't know her name. She caught my eye in a google search.

[g27region]

I don't think it's that convincing. Rigondeaux hasn't been himself since Donaire. That was a lifetime ago in boxing years. If it's a forgone conclusion I wouldn't put as much weight on it as unifying a division. I would still have Crawford ahead of Lomachenko.

You can talk about the weight gap, but like it or not, since Ward retired, Lomachenko/Rigondeaux winner will be the only fighter in p4p list with a win over another p4p'er

Crawford, Mikey, Golovkin, Canelo, Thurman doesn't have wins over p4p caliber of fighters. That's a fact

[Raggamuffin]

I don't think it's that convincing. Rigondeaux hasn't been himself since Donaire. That was a lifetime ago in boxing years. If it's a forgone conclusion I wouldn't put as much weight on it as unifying a division. I would still have Crawford ahead of Lomachenko.

Me too. That fight won't be enough to call either the best pfp today.

[HarvardBlue]

You can talk about the weight gap, but like it or not, since Ward retired, Lomachenko/Rigondeaux winner will be the only fighter in p4p list with a win over another p4p'er

Crawford, Mikey, Golovkin, Canelo, Thurman doesn't have wins over p4p caliber of fighters. That's a fact

I believe Broner and Cotto were once P4P caliber fighters (at least in the discussion). However, that's exactly my point. A win over Rigondeaux today wouldn't be the same as it would be if it was right after the Donaire fight. Name one fighter that Rigondeaux faced since Donaire that would help his P4P status.

[koolkc107]

First off, he hasn't beat Rigo yet and he may not.

And, even with an official W, we need to see how the fight itself unfolds before crediting anyone.

That leaves Garry Russell and Nicholas Walters, two guys who have zero elite wins unless you count washed up former names...then each guy has one.

However, that still doesn't equate to a better resume than Crawford, especially given who Loma lost to.

Nice try tho...

[g27region]

I believe Broner and Cotto were once P4P caliber fighters (at least in the discussion).

Not at the time when Mikey and Canelo fought them so that doesn't matter. Rigo and Loma are included in most p4p lists at this current moment, that's the key difference between Loma/Rigo and Broner/Mikey or Canelo/Cotto

However, that's exactly my point. A win over Rigondeaux today wouldn't be the same as it would be if it was right after the Donaire fight. Name one fighter that Rigondeaux faced since Donaire that would help his P4P status.

Oh yeah, and I forgot about Donaire.

So it makes Rigo the only one guy in the list who actually defeated an elite fighter who was p4p at the time when the fight took place. This accomplishment is enough to cement his spot

[HarvardBlue]

Not at the time when Mikey and Canelo fought them so that doesn't matter. Rigo and Loma are included in most p4p lists at this current moment, that's the key difference between Loma/Rigo and Broner/Mikey or Canelo/Cotto



Oh yeah, and I forgot about Donaire.

So it makes Rigo the only one guy in the list who actually defeated an elite fighter who was p4p at the time when the fight took place. This accomplishment is enough to cement his spot

I don't necessarily believe Lomachenko should be in the Top 10, definitely not Top 5. Rigondeaux with his long layoffs and recent caliber of opposition shouldn't really be in the discussion either but he should be higher than
Lomachenko because of the Donaire win. The winner of Rigondeaux-Lomachenko should be second to Crawford but that's just my opinion. Which is the other part of the P4P discussion. It is really subjective. I think having Lomachenko there based on his potential is making mockery of the process. And that's coming from someone that thinks Lomachenko is the real deal. However, let him earn it like everyone else. The P4P discussion is going to be muddy for awhile because there's no clear heir to the throne.