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  • #21
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
    Please explain how that is a good indicator.
    Actually, I'll save you the time, because you can't. Bro-science dictates that fighters come into the ring "on drugs". It doesn't work that way. The use it in-camp for recovery. Not on fight-night for strength as most seem to believe. It's not going to affect anything about the weigh-in.
    I'm not talking about a fighter using it on fight night. How ****** would you have to be to use PEDs on fight night? I'm talking about how easily you can cut weight, and retain all the muscle, and weight come fight night. Chael Sonnen was talking about how guys on PEDs can balloon up like crazy after they weigh in, and it's a good indicator of PED use.

    And yes, we all know it's used during camp, and one of the main benefits of PEDs is recovery.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
      I'm not talking about a fighter using it on fight night. How ****** would you have to be to use PEDs on fight night? I'm talking about how easily you can cut weight, and retain all the muscle, and weight come fight night. Chael Sonnen was talking about how guys on PEDs can balloon up like crazy after they weigh in, and it's a good indicator of PED use.

      And yes, we all know it's used during camp, and one of the main benefits of PEDs is recovery.
      ^That's still not how it works. It does not let you balloon in muscle and give you magical weigh-in powers. Also, the Sonnen thing makes no sense because, if they are not on something on fight-night, how are they cutting easier?
      If anything, you are in trouble after a cycle because your hormones are very out of wack and you are more prone to bloating. PED-gained muscle doesn't de-hydrate and re-hydrate any different than muscle gained through careful nutrition, genetics, and training.

      I've got a lot of personal experience in this area and don't like seeing the misinformation people spread out there. They can help you get bigger and leaner. yes. They are not changing your weigh-ins though unless the contest is devoid of testing.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
        ^That's still not how it works. It does not let you balloon in muscle and give you magical weigh-in powers. Also, the Sonnen thing makes no sense because, if they are not on something on fight-night, how are they cutting easier?
        If anything, you are in trouble after a cycle because your hormones are very out of wack and you are more prone to bloating. PED-gained muscle doesn't de-hydrate and re-hydrate any different than muscle gained through careful nutrition, genetics, and training.

        I've got a lot of personal experience in this area and don't like seeing the misinformation people spread out there. They can help you get bigger and leaner. yes. They are not changing your weigh-ins though unless the contest is devoid of testing.
        OK, that;s just what I heard from Sonnen, and you know he';s popped a bunch of times, so took his word for it. Not a PED expert, so you're probably right. And I wasn't saying it gives you magical weigh in strength, he was saying something along the lines of, it allows you to regain all the lost weight through your weight cut, and gain mostly all of your muscle, and weight back, with barely any muscle and weight loss from cutting weight, and dehydrating, and starving yourself in general.

        But you're the expert on this, so not gonna say you're wrong. Just think it's ****** for the TS to troll with such a dumb ass title, and accuse GGG of PEDs, and assume Canelo's this clean angel.

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