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  • The Big Dunn
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    #31
    Originally posted by Vlad_
    The Q is for losing (on paper) against Ward twice and still beating him up so bad WARD QUIT AND RETIRED after a so called TKO win...
    If that is your spin, go with it. Maybe you and Kov can drive to Ward's HOF induction together. You can rub his sore **** all you want on the ride there.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #32
      Originally posted by Mukuro
      Well hey, as long as the slick American wins over the Russian, does it really matter if he did it illegally? Apparently that is good enough for the NSAC
      ... tbh: I can't say much in Kova's defense -- he showed up with such a poor stamina...

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        #33
        Originally posted by MDPopescu
        ... tbh: I can't say much in Kova's defense -- he showed up with such a poor stamina...
        He came into that ring with a lot of negative energy and looked like he was wearing down as the fight moved into the later rounds. It is quite possible Ward would have beat, or even stopped him legally, as it looked like he was on his way to doing that round. He stunned him with a nice right hand and had Kovalev on his heels.

        None of that changes the reality of how the fight ended.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mukuro
          He came into that ring with a lot of negative energy and looked like he was wearing down as the fight moved into the later rounds. It is quite possible Ward would have beat, or even stopped him legally, as it looked like he was on his way to doing that round. He stunned him with a nice right hand and had Kovalev on his heels.

          None of that changes the reality of how the fight ended.
          ..."negative energy"? IDK what it means, it isn't scientifically proven to exist...

          ... Kova entered the ring anxious about oneself, not confident... and displaying a pathetic conditioning... (Ward's right couldn't shake Brand, ffs...)

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            #35
            Hometown advantage is the biggest one in my opinion since that is the main reason why he is even allowed to get a way with his illegal tactics in the first place. Put him in a neutral arena outside of USA against any top fighter from 160 pounds - 175 pounds and he either gets disqualified or beaten soundly, by stoppage or decision.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mukuro
              He came into that ring with a lot of negative energy and looked like he was wearing down as the fight moved into the later rounds. It is quite possible Ward would have beat, or even stopped him legally, as it looked like he was on his way to doing that round. He stunned him with a nice right hand and had Kovalev on his heels.

              None of that changes the reality of how the fight ended.

              I agree.ward kandef a good shot, now finish fair. But he didnt.

              But like is other great 1st and 2nd fights there was a third. And ward is ducking that.

              He is a fighter known for illegal tactics and was permitted to do so which is sickening .

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                #37
                Low-blows, elbows, headbutts, clinches, pushing with forearms into face and throat. He had a full arsenal of tactics that he used to defeat Euro-stiffs.

                Imagine if Kovalev or GGG had Ward's resume? The Ward fans would be tearing it up, calling Abraham, Kessler and Froch overrated bums. What if GGG came up and demanded a 172 lb. catch weight with Paul Smith...how would that be received by the haters?

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                • Mukuro
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  ..."negative energy"? IDK what it means, it isn't scientifically proven to exist...

                  ... Kova entered the ring anxious about oneself, not confident... and displaying a pathetic conditioning... (Ward's right couldn't shake Brand, ffs...)
                  It is possible that his conditioning wasn't up to par, but I attributed it to his state of mind not being good. He wanted to hurt Ward badly and wasn't fighting calmly. It can affect a person's breathing among other things.

                  Originally posted by Jc8804
                  I agree.ward kandef a good shot, now finish fair. But he didnt.

                  But like is other great 1st and 2nd fights there was a third. And ward is ducking that.

                  He is a fighter known for illegal tactics and was permitted to do so which is sickening .
                  I'm more sickened by the commission and the fans who let it slide like it doesn't matter that a great fight was ended with illegal punches.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mukuro
                    It is possible that his conditioning wasn't up to par, but I attributed it to his state of mind not being good. He wanted to hurt Ward badly and wasn't fighting calmly. It can affect a person's breathing among other things.



                    I'm more sickened by the commission and the fans who let it slide like it doesn't matter that a great fight was ended with illegal punches.
                    1)... Yes, maybe... But this means he's not a great fighter, at the end of the day...
                    2) even before the commission, it was the ref who immediately waved "stop" right on a blatant blow to the groin!!!

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                    • Mukuro
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      1)... Yes, maybe... But this means he's not a great fighter, at the end of the day...
                      2) even before the commission, it was the ref who immediately waved "stop" right on a blatant blow to the groin!!!
                      Maybe. I don't disagree with you that Kovalev put himself in this position.

                      Yeah, the ref blew it. The NSAC and fans had the luxury of multiple angles, slow motion footage though and still denied what was plainly visible.

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